They really do say things like this! Jeanine just wrote, “I've yet to meet a christian who denies science. If by denying science you mean that they don't believe evolution, then you are being ridiculous. I wonder how much you actually know about evolution? It's an unproven theory.”
Why can’t these people understand that denying evolution because it contradicts the mythical nonsense that forms the core beliefs of their religion, is denying science?
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You won't get through to these people, darling. They are not interested in learning.
They want to confirm their existing worldview, enjoy the products of science and technology, and not look like fools by rejecting what they cannot deny, so they latch on to the "not proven" catchphrase about evolution, generously tell us that they accept gravity, and think they're champions of scientific rigor. In fact, some of them think that their objections are actually reasonable and scientifically rigorous, and they truly believe that they know more about it than people working in the field of evolutionary biology.
When you think of them rejecting all of the evidence that supports evolution as both a fact and a theory, and compare that to the uncritical way in which those same people accept their religious text as absolute truth, you'll see that they are just not that interested in how things really work.
They're trying to seem as though they're somehow more informed than scientists. A *THEORY* is by definition, a hypothesis that survived trial and testing to later become commonly accepted philosophy by those among the scientific community.
There's a reason the vast majority of scientists either don't start out Xian, or do and later leave the religion behind due to a loss of faith. Science has refuted countless bull$h!t statements that Xianity has made, creationism being only one such claim.
It's also important to keep in mind that while a theory *can* later be proven wrong, Evolution hasn't, and the Creationists have yet to even come up with a sensible, sound scientific basis for their claims. Even if Evolution isn't proven 100% yet, Creationism is still light years behind it, and thus anything Creationists say against Evolution can only rationally be taken as an attempt to slow down their opponent. They're just cynical because of their lack of success, don't let their poor sportsmanship get to you. Acknowledging their behavior in the first place doesn't really serve any purpose, unless of course its in the interest of putting them in their place whenever they try and seize control of the law.
Try to just laugh at their pathetic state of denial and go about your life like the rest of us.
-Valkyr
I really don't understand your question?
I am a Christian, and I love science! My grievance is that "evolution" as it is in school is really a tax-funded religion class. There is no proof of it at all.
I would challenge you to research it yourself to see if you come up with the same conclusion.
How did gravity come into existence?
Can nothing really create a big bang, to create everything?
How does the sun get it's gas to burn for so long?
Can you really get dogs from non-dog species,and why does it not happen today?
Every article I see says that some scientists 'believe' that this happened, or they theories about another thing. There is absolutely no proof.
Don't take my word for it, please. Research it yourself to see if you conclude the same result.
I did, and found out that I had been lied to all the way through school.
Religion is based on faith.Faith being belief without evidence.
This means all arguments from a scientific viewpoint are useless because everything to a religion comes down to faith. You could argue for hours with a christian but when you say "well who created god" they can say"its beyond comprehension" the concept of scientific debate is now gone. There is no point of debate from there because niether side is working on the others set of logic principles.
I read somwhere once there was a christian scientist (sorry i forget the details) he worked for years as a geologist before realising his results contradicted the bible. He burned all his research because he had Faith and the Facts got in the way of his faith
Both. Lent is the period leading up to Easter, following with Christian (not pagan) traditions directly from the Bible meant to add reverence to Easter and to Christ's sacrifice and resurrection. Some fundamentalist Protestants lately have been deliberately trying to confuse the meaning of "religion", mostly parroted from what they're told by their pastors; but all "religion" is is a set of supernatural beliefs and practices usually having to do with a deity or deities. That's all. That's the standard, widely-accepted definition of "religion". Try as they may, their beliefs and practices are as much religious in nature as anyone else's... the effort to ditch the term "religion" is a fad that's been going on with fundies the last 5-10 years or so. Yes, Lent is a religious tradition; more to the point, it is a Christian religious tradition, and one that has been observed for about 2,000 years. Ignore paranoid whack-jobs like Chris and Susanna. They know nothing of history, and look for any opportunity to attack other faiths--even other Christians--because they erroneously think that this wins them brownie points in heaven. I guess their idea of God is a reflection of their own bigoted ideas... but seeing as how none of their ideas, actions, or behavior are Christian (would Jesus himself really say/do the things they do?), I wouldn't give their nonsensical drivel any merit.
They can say that they aren't denying science but calling evolution an "unproven theory" immediately proves that they have no idea at all what a scientific theory is.
Meh. I guess they can't really deny it if they can't even comprehend it...
Well Desiree, a lot of us, whether we are Christian or not, never denied the facts of evolution, we just point to some of the flaws in the theory, which kind of ruffles the feathers of militant atheists such as yourself.
Maybe. But the understanding gained by science is subject to change. Further evidence demands that previously believed models of nature are discarded or modified. At one time it was perfectly reasonable to believe that the sun went around the earth. Every day it rises in the East and sets in the West. Empirical evidence. But one day, some smart guy proves it wrong. It's a matter of getting a new, superior vantage point. It's said that even Einstein balked at quantum physics, not liking it's uncertainties. Evolution may prove to be the same kind of outmoded thinking. It serves to provide an easy coverall model for the origins of lifeforms on Earth, but it's far from incontrovertible.
yours in Christ, Nick
Christians can deny evolution without denying science. Evolution is a part of science, yes, but it is not science in itself.
I mean, looking at it from another POV - gravity is just a theory too. But I'm sure that many Christians don't deny that gravity exists. However, it is still just that - a theory.
Theory - scientific principle to explain phenomena: a set of facts, propositions, or principles analyzed in their relation to one another and used, especially in science, to explain phenomena
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I LOVED this response to this question:
"Do you know what a theory is?
Source(s):
Christian Science expert that doesn't believe in evolution or the big bang"
A "christian science expert" who doen't know what a theory is in a scientific context.
More dishonesty from the faithful.