Could God have created a reality with freewill and where sin never existed? If yes then why blame mankind for choosing sin? If no then why call God a god?
I'm looking for strong, but logical counter arguments that will make sense whether you are a believer or non-believer. So any suggestions for improving this synopsis are encouraged and welcomed.
Thanks for your answers.
Update:@Louis - the question asked if god could create a reality with freewill where sin NEVER existed. According to your religion sin exists.
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There's no such thing god or sin. If you are a reader of the bible, you should have seen all the discrepancies. The bible is not the word of some "god." Ever heard of con men? It's all about making money and of course people back then were even more primitive and yes, dumb enough to believe it. And guess what? This was passed on to from generation to generation... It's common sense really. It really is. And what better way to control people than by installing fear in them? ...that's why they came up with the whole sin b.s.
That's one of it. The fact that an all-powerful god that can create universes can't even create a perfect human race. Wait. He did. But then he didn't anticipate the devil's rebellion and humanity's fallen state. Then he buggers off to leave humanity with the devil and demons. And still, he sends his "children" to a realm of eternal torture because they didn't obey scrolls that have so many errors in it and was manipulated by the elite classes. Wait a minute. Those scrolls are related to Egypt.
There's more reasons why a god doesn't exist. One is using logic, the other is studying the untranslated scrolls and Egyptian religions.
The fact of the matter is sinners if they are not a child of God there kingdom is of this world, not of God world the true kingdom, that is why most people will not follow God word the bible only because the bible is a reproach to most of the people who read it because it judges them an it cut them right to their heart, an they don't like that, because they don't want to answer to a super God, but we are bounded by the laws of God an God laws demands payment for sins an the wages of sin is death, im just paraphrasing it.
Until the first shamans and other deadbeats came along and devised a way to live off someone else’s labor, people understood that God was literally the forces of nature that controlled their conception, birth, life, and death. Those forces were their only truth, their God, be they supernatural or simply natural, whether man could fully understand them or not. God was literally facts resulting in cause and effect and the first priority was, and still is, self-preservation, which absolutely requires the freedom to make one’s own choices which is therefore the subject of the first lesson in the Bible.
This lesson teaches us that no one has the God-given right to impose their will on anyone else because doing so restricts that person’s freedom, a threat to their self preservation. We draw this conclusion because Adam and Eve got kicked out of Eden for becoming “as gods,” spelled with a lower case g. Because of this lesson, we must differentiate the word God spelled with a capital G and god spelled with a lowercase g in the Bible. If we do, the Bible takes on an entirely different meaning.
Adam and Eve became “as gods,” when they accepted the knowledge of good and evil, which God forbid because good and evil are opinions, not fact’s. They rejected being ruled by facts, lost their God-given freedom, and became subject to little g gods opinions of good and evil defined as LAW.
Romans 4:15 tells us that where there is no law there is no transgression. This is simple common sense. This means there is no such thing as sin, sinner, crime, criminals, or evil until someone acting as a little g god defines these things according to his or her claimed knowledge of good and evil. Common sense dictates that law, by defining them, is the creator of all sin, crime and evil. This is why 1st Corinthians 15:24–25 tells us that all human rule, power, and authority are the enemies of God. They are the lawmakers who enjoy the psychopathic pleasure of creating inferiors to look down on and lawbreakers to punish according to their whims, all of whom are God’s children. Since law creates sin and crime then it is the lawmakers and their enforcers that are the agents of Satan, the original creator of sin.
War is the act of men following the law of their leaders and caused over 200 million deaths in the 20th century alone. No wonder God told Adam and Eve that if they accepted the knowledge of good and evil, aka law, they would die. Does God really consider any of us sinners if it was an agent of Satan who branded us as such using the “knowledge” God forbid man to have?
That argument is based on only the abrahamic concept of god. Which is wrong.
“God is not a being or an entity. God is the great positive force, the collective positive force of all that is. To call god an entity and especially to personify god is to limit the concept.”
God is the Universal Consciousness, the Intelligent Infinity, the One Source, the Prime Creator. EVERYTHING IS GOD. God is All There Is. We are all part of god. All the universes combined are part of god.
My succinct answer:
"There is no evidence that any gods exist. Until some evidence surfaces, I feel quite justified in putting them in the same bag labelled "unproven", along with the elves, goblins, leprechauns, fairies etc."
I do not believe gods exist and I like your logic. Believers will always have a different spin to justify their god.
God DID create reality without sin, AND WITH freewill.
Synopsis : having the same viewpoint, viewed from the same position (literally, as in observing a scene or event from the same position as another, or figuratively, as in agreement of a situation.
Your use of 'synopsis' is flawed in this case.
Genesis Chapter One of course gives the illusion of free will. "Do not eat of the tree, lest ye die" without explaining what "die" is or that "an eternal stain of sin descends on all mankind" is not free will. It is withholding information, a form of lying.