In my opinion : Be Sure. God always want to save us. So he send jesus and make the task he want from him. Jesus is just a messanger of god to spread out the facts. He is back again and again in the different firm and country but. Neighter we recognise him nor he knows himself. The creation who take birth in earth is certainly die a day sooner or later. Who take birth is not the god only the good spirit and soul work as per the inner directions from super invisible power. Such soul work for other people who want to live. Jesus himself does not wanted to live more In the world so he fight and die for good but not die from the soul of everypeople in the world. He alive forever.
Ok, I'm not even really Christian any more, but here's something that makes way more sense if you believe in an omnipotent God:
Yes, God could have just gone "poof, no more sin and death!", but we as humans would never be able to get that message. He needed to send someone to show us the truth, save us from ourselves, whatever. We all know from watching pretty much every movie ever that a person who makes the "ultimate sacrifice" is way more awesome/makes for a better story/people will actually remember. Humans thrive on theatrics, that's why the Jesus story has captured the attention of so many.
There is a legal precedent being set that will stand forever.
Satan accused God of being an unjust sovereign over men and angels. God could have wiped everyone out and start again but that would have proved He was powerful but not much else. Satan lied to trick Eve into disobeying Gods direct command to not eat something that was not hers. God had the right to set laws and boundaries. Satan disagreed. Jesus stepped up to answer the false accusation by living an equal life to what Adam had lost as a perfect man and did remain faithful, even under harsh test. Because Jesus died faithful, he proved that created man was capable of living by Gods standards. Satan was proved a liar. Legal precedent stands forever.
Jesus Christ/ Yeshua Ha Meshyiach said "for this cause came I into the World."
The Lamb of God was necessary to transfer our sin to the sinless. It was pictured with an innocent lamb being sacrificed until the innocent "Lamb Of God" was sacrificed.
Jesus was not looking forward to the pain. He asked Father if there was any other way possible to complete the plan of salvation, to take this cup from Him. There was no other way.
The pre-incarnate Yeshua knew this before He came. When Yeshua put aside His glory and became a man, He had to grow in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man. Then the Father spoke "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
Jesus always did the will of the Father.
He died on the cross to let the innocent pay for the guilty. Greater love has no man that this, that a man lay down His life for (Josephine and) his brother. It is not theatrics; It is legalities.
There are spiritual laws just like there are physical laws. Sin demands payment.
All divine interaction with humanity has involved a spiritual "dumbing down" by the deity. Since we as lowly humans have limited understanding of spiritual matters, the god used Christ's suffering to illustrate the great deal of pain the deity undergoes as a result of true sin. Being the underlying fabric of all reality, the deity suffers when its creations do harm to itself. Thus, the suffering of Christ represents a substitution for god's pain by making it incarnate in the human Jesus.
Jesus gave his life in payment of all our sins, it is an act of Self Sacrifice. Like throwing yourself on a hand grenade to save your friends only with more ramifications.
From the moment of man's sin a price had to be paid to bring us back into line with God. The price is your life; since you had to die to pay it you could never be right with God before you died.
God chose to take the form of Man and pay the price of death for us thus we do not have to die in order to be saved. Jesus was raised from the dead to prove he had conquered death and that we could have life through him.
Yes but He chose to become fully human through Jesus. He could have stopped Adam and Eve from disobeying but then we would not have free will we would be but puppets on a string.
What kind of God is that who needs a blood sacrifice when he can just forgive humans for their sins?
What kind of faith is that that believes that God needs a human sacrifice to forgive sins?
What kind of people would believe that God allowed his "son" to be savagely tortured, killed and humiliated while he was just watching all of it for the salvation of mankind that he can just do anytime?
What kind of love it is that, that would require a blood sacrifice of an innocent person for the salvation of the sinners when God can just forgive them?
What kind of a "father" is god who was willing to see his "son" being tortured and killed by people and in the end was even taunted by the "son" for forsaking him?
What kind of power God has that he can not save his won "son" while he was able to saved the Jews from the oppression of the Pharaoh and even forgive their sins?
What love, mercy and compassion are we talking about when the victim of the human sacrifice was not even a willing victim? He was crying, praying to God and in the end blamed God for forsaking him?
What kind of people celebrate and take the symbol of the human sacrifice as sacred when their Lord suffered, was humiliated and tortured on that same symbol?
What kind of people can shamelessly shout to the world that god needed an innocent blood to redeem mankind from sins? How savage that could be?
But I guess there are millions of them...and you know what is ironic these same people are accusing the Muslims of having a savage god!!!
Nope. God is justice, and he had the greatest of ideas to subject an innocent man to death. Now being just he could judge sin and death as the guilty one taking something it had no right to take, and could raise those in Christ to life without anyone accusing him of wrong.
In response to some of the poor illustrations like Traveler's, it does not necessarily work that way. God's will is not bound by any rule book, and we cannot make him conform to our standards of what justice is.
God has forgiven the sins of many people in the past without requiring any type of sacrifice. He even has forgiven people even when they didn't ask for it. After committing the sin of adultery, King David fasted and offered sacrifices to God, yet God chose not to forgive. It is silly to make a claim that God is coerced into doing our bidding because we spill blood or recite an incantation. It is even worse when we make a claim that God must abide by our laws as if he were some sort of computer program.
Examine:
Psalm 40:6 Sacrifice and meal offering You have not desired; my ears You have opened; Burnt offerings and sin offerings You have not required
Psalm 78:36 Their heart was not steadfast toward Him, nor were they faithful in His covenant. But He, being compassionate, forgave their iniquity...remembering that they were but flesh.
Isaiah 43:23 You have not brought Me the sheep of your burnt offerings...or the fat of your sacrifices, but you have burdened Me with your sins...Nevertheless, I will wipe out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins.
Jeremiah 36:3 That every man will turn from his evil way, then I will forgive their iniquity and their sin.
Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts, and let him return to the L-rd, and He will have compassion on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon
Hosea 14:1 Return, O Israel, to the Lord your God, For you have stumbled because of your iniquity. Take words with you and return to the L-rd. Say to Him, `Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously, for we will render as bullocks the offerings of our lips'.
Daniel 4:27 Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you: Redeem your sins by doing righteousness, and your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor.
So YES, God could forgive us (and has forgiven us) for the sins that we committed without the use of sacrifices. They are not required.
God even says this about sacrifices: Has the Lord as great a delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken more than the fat of rams. Samuel 15:22 and This: To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to the L-rd than sacrifice." Proverbs 21:3
People took one quote from the bible that talks about eating blood (Leviticus 17:11) and twisted it to mean that forgiveness is only obtained through sacrifices.
King Solomon summed it up nicely when talking about forgiveness.
"If they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and pray to You toward their land which You have given to their fathers, the city which You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and forgive Your people who have sinned against You and all their transgressions which they have transgressed against You..." (I Kings 8:46-50).
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In my opinion : Be Sure. God always want to save us. So he send jesus and make the task he want from him. Jesus is just a messanger of god to spread out the facts. He is back again and again in the different firm and country but. Neighter we recognise him nor he knows himself. The creation who take birth in earth is certainly die a day sooner or later. Who take birth is not the god only the good spirit and soul work as per the inner directions from super invisible power. Such soul work for other people who want to live. Jesus himself does not wanted to live more In the world so he fight and die for good but not die from the soul of everypeople in the world. He alive forever.
Ok, I'm not even really Christian any more, but here's something that makes way more sense if you believe in an omnipotent God:
Yes, God could have just gone "poof, no more sin and death!", but we as humans would never be able to get that message. He needed to send someone to show us the truth, save us from ourselves, whatever. We all know from watching pretty much every movie ever that a person who makes the "ultimate sacrifice" is way more awesome/makes for a better story/people will actually remember. Humans thrive on theatrics, that's why the Jesus story has captured the attention of so many.
There is a legal precedent being set that will stand forever.
Satan accused God of being an unjust sovereign over men and angels. God could have wiped everyone out and start again but that would have proved He was powerful but not much else. Satan lied to trick Eve into disobeying Gods direct command to not eat something that was not hers. God had the right to set laws and boundaries. Satan disagreed. Jesus stepped up to answer the false accusation by living an equal life to what Adam had lost as a perfect man and did remain faithful, even under harsh test. Because Jesus died faithful, he proved that created man was capable of living by Gods standards. Satan was proved a liar. Legal precedent stands forever.
Jesus Christ/ Yeshua Ha Meshyiach said "for this cause came I into the World."
The Lamb of God was necessary to transfer our sin to the sinless. It was pictured with an innocent lamb being sacrificed until the innocent "Lamb Of God" was sacrificed.
Jesus was not looking forward to the pain. He asked Father if there was any other way possible to complete the plan of salvation, to take this cup from Him. There was no other way.
The pre-incarnate Yeshua knew this before He came. When Yeshua put aside His glory and became a man, He had to grow in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man. Then the Father spoke "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
Jesus always did the will of the Father.
He died on the cross to let the innocent pay for the guilty. Greater love has no man that this, that a man lay down His life for (Josephine and) his brother. It is not theatrics; It is legalities.
There are spiritual laws just like there are physical laws. Sin demands payment.
All divine interaction with humanity has involved a spiritual "dumbing down" by the deity. Since we as lowly humans have limited understanding of spiritual matters, the god used Christ's suffering to illustrate the great deal of pain the deity undergoes as a result of true sin. Being the underlying fabric of all reality, the deity suffers when its creations do harm to itself. Thus, the suffering of Christ represents a substitution for god's pain by making it incarnate in the human Jesus.
He did not sacrifice Jesus.
Jesus gave his life in payment of all our sins, it is an act of Self Sacrifice. Like throwing yourself on a hand grenade to save your friends only with more ramifications.
From the moment of man's sin a price had to be paid to bring us back into line with God. The price is your life; since you had to die to pay it you could never be right with God before you died.
God chose to take the form of Man and pay the price of death for us thus we do not have to die in order to be saved. Jesus was raised from the dead to prove he had conquered death and that we could have life through him.
Yes but He chose to become fully human through Jesus. He could have stopped Adam and Eve from disobeying but then we would not have free will we would be but puppets on a string.
Yes.
What kind of God is that who needs a blood sacrifice when he can just forgive humans for their sins?
What kind of faith is that that believes that God needs a human sacrifice to forgive sins?
What kind of people would believe that God allowed his "son" to be savagely tortured, killed and humiliated while he was just watching all of it for the salvation of mankind that he can just do anytime?
What kind of love it is that, that would require a blood sacrifice of an innocent person for the salvation of the sinners when God can just forgive them?
What kind of a "father" is god who was willing to see his "son" being tortured and killed by people and in the end was even taunted by the "son" for forsaking him?
What kind of power God has that he can not save his won "son" while he was able to saved the Jews from the oppression of the Pharaoh and even forgive their sins?
What love, mercy and compassion are we talking about when the victim of the human sacrifice was not even a willing victim? He was crying, praying to God and in the end blamed God for forsaking him?
What kind of people celebrate and take the symbol of the human sacrifice as sacred when their Lord suffered, was humiliated and tortured on that same symbol?
What kind of people can shamelessly shout to the world that god needed an innocent blood to redeem mankind from sins? How savage that could be?
But I guess there are millions of them...and you know what is ironic these same people are accusing the Muslims of having a savage god!!!
Nope. God is justice, and he had the greatest of ideas to subject an innocent man to death. Now being just he could judge sin and death as the guilty one taking something it had no right to take, and could raise those in Christ to life without anyone accusing him of wrong.
Brilliant!
In response to some of the poor illustrations like Traveler's, it does not necessarily work that way. God's will is not bound by any rule book, and we cannot make him conform to our standards of what justice is.
God has forgiven the sins of many people in the past without requiring any type of sacrifice. He even has forgiven people even when they didn't ask for it. After committing the sin of adultery, King David fasted and offered sacrifices to God, yet God chose not to forgive. It is silly to make a claim that God is coerced into doing our bidding because we spill blood or recite an incantation. It is even worse when we make a claim that God must abide by our laws as if he were some sort of computer program.
Examine:
Psalm 40:6 Sacrifice and meal offering You have not desired; my ears You have opened; Burnt offerings and sin offerings You have not required
Psalm 78:36 Their heart was not steadfast toward Him, nor were they faithful in His covenant. But He, being compassionate, forgave their iniquity...remembering that they were but flesh.
Isaiah 43:23 You have not brought Me the sheep of your burnt offerings...or the fat of your sacrifices, but you have burdened Me with your sins...Nevertheless, I will wipe out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins.
Jeremiah 36:3 That every man will turn from his evil way, then I will forgive their iniquity and their sin.
Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts, and let him return to the L-rd, and He will have compassion on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon
Hosea 14:1 Return, O Israel, to the Lord your God, For you have stumbled because of your iniquity. Take words with you and return to the L-rd. Say to Him, `Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously, for we will render as bullocks the offerings of our lips'.
Daniel 4:27 Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you: Redeem your sins by doing righteousness, and your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor.
So YES, God could forgive us (and has forgiven us) for the sins that we committed without the use of sacrifices. They are not required.
God even says this about sacrifices: Has the Lord as great a delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken more than the fat of rams. Samuel 15:22 and This: To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to the L-rd than sacrifice." Proverbs 21:3
People took one quote from the bible that talks about eating blood (Leviticus 17:11) and twisted it to mean that forgiveness is only obtained through sacrifices.
King Solomon summed it up nicely when talking about forgiveness.
"If they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and pray to You toward their land which You have given to their fathers, the city which You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and forgive Your people who have sinned against You and all their transgressions which they have transgressed against You..." (I Kings 8:46-50).