But I would say: «what is the point of living if I can't live my life for myself and those I choose, but for a being that has it all and needs nothing» —if He's to exist—.
How would you answer the believer's question in your own words?
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What is the point of living if all you believe is God?
I believe it to mostly be a rebellion against what has come before and an attempt to redefine. All children believe they know better than their parents and that they are invincible. I have not seen anything beyond anecdote to support your hypothesis; in fact I have seen the opposite. I believe the worst rebellion/behavior exists where belief in nothing does as well. I am not talking about Atheism when I say that, although that nothingness is usually there too, I mean no future, no answers, no point in it(life) at all. If you were not taught any morals at all (or specifically bad ones to begin with) I am pretty sure your behavior will uniformly be worse than being taught a good set of ones for whatever reason they were taught in the first place. If you find some research done with no agenda I would be interested in a look... but I can't imagine someone getting funding for such a thing without at least an implied agenda. Would you believe or disbelieve it either way?
Why does living have to have a "point" ?
Isn't it pretty darned marvelous just as it is? Regardless of whether it has some overarching meaning? And regardless of whether it lasts forever or not?
I do think the believers have a valid point, however, one that they themselves may misunderstand.
The hard fact is, we all need to die sometime, and most of us get old & wrinkled & feeble & sometimes a bit feeble-minded before we die.
To focus only on the preservation of our own individual lives, therefore, is arguably a fool's game. When we play this game, we know that eventually, we're going to lose.
And if we live ONLY for ourselves, ONLY for the perpetuation of our own bodies & brains & personalities, we can go a little bit nuts fighting, fighting, fighting against our inevitable mortality.
So much so, that some atheists throughout history have looked on life as a bitter & meaningless exercise indeed. See some of the the poetry of Baudelaire, for example, and some of the best Shakespearean soliloquies, for examples of this kind of despair.
What religion tells the believer about "getting right with God," I would argue, is partly a way of finding peace & joy in life -- at least for some body -- despite the inevitability of death.
When you can find a way to expand your sense of self -- when you can identify with, and direct your passions and your intelligence towards the promotion of, some bigger and longer-lasting entity than yourself -- I think you achieve something like being "born again" and winning "eternal life."
If you live for the perpetuation of your family or your tribe rather than your individual ego, for example, you can take joy in your grandchildren rather that railing against your own approaching death.
If you live for some glorious or not so glorious political ideal -- American patriotism, or ancient Roman power, or Communism or democracy or Serbian nationalism or Zionism or whatever -- you again can take comfort in the notion that the sacred Cause will survive you, even though you're going to end up as dust.
Similarly with living for literature, or music, or nature, or what you think of as God.
I can testify from personal experience that this kind of willful transcendence of self -- whether or not it's an illusion -- is just incredibly liberating psychologically. It helps you get out of the confines of a self that's doomed to die, or at least to imagine escaping from that doomed self, and it can help you to celebrate the ongoing flourishing of life all around you.
I would answer that if the believer lives in such a way that their only worth while act is believing in a god, then they should change the way they live. I would further explain that it is our rare privilege as human animals to determine our lives meaning and to build it in each breath we take. Such is the blessing and intense responsibility of being capable of great intelligence and compassion.
@"what is the point of living if you don't believe in God?»?"
We never got the chance to live and enjoy fully [forever] on that place that He had for us in the Beginning.
He has made a WAY for us to be on the next one.
This time He will make sure "THE BLOOD OF HIS SON COVERS EVERYONE INVITED."
Believing in God is Just the Beginning and Most important.
Hebrews 11:6.
The point of living is whatever you make it to be.
Whether you live your life for a belief whether I agree with it or not is your reason. My reason doesn't necessarily match your's, and that's fine.
If you find no point in living, then don't. But you can always find a reason for it, always.
not this believer!
i totally agree with donna. living is the point of living. if you are alive, you can learn and you can love and you can do a million other things beside, including partaking in a great spiritual quest or not, as your mind dictates. i think the point is to do well what you do now (that will sketch tomorrow's path).
The point of living no matter what you believe is to treat others with dignity and respect.
we don't no the point of living but
i think we need to stop arguments, because the point in life in not to fight and judge people like we do, why can't we get over our differences?
Believe in god- point of living= obey slave!
Don't believe in god-point of living=what can I do here!