Christians have always been and will always be, monotheistic. One GOD in Three distinct Persons.
This is why muslim men are allowed to marry Christian women. If Christians were polytheists, your men would not be permitted to chase after Christian women and marry them since muslim men are not allowed to marry polytheistic women, like Hindus.
The confusion arose when the Islamic deity, called "Allah" (a name taken from the moon god of the pagan idol-worshiping pre-islamic tribes) supposedly dictated a book to a desert caravan robber names Mohammed and that god Allah said that the Christian Trinity was Allah, his wife Mary and their son Jesus. Well, everyone in the world knows that the Trinity is, and always was, and always will be the Father, Son and Spirit of God. But that mistake of Allah started the whole mess.
So I suggest you go to your top mullah and let him know that the quran needs some abrogation to clean it up- have him change the quran's dumb mistake about the Trinity.
And while you are at it, you guys should really use another word for your deity since he has nothing to do with the One true GOD of Abraham and Isaac.
Sorry it is not clear to you personally, but the fact (you know what a fact is, right?) is that Christians generally believe in one God, and that this God is understood as having three natures or persons. This does not divide the God up; it merely points to three ways in which God is perceived.
I have heard this misunderstanding of the Christian view of God repeatedly. It is one of those things muslims ought to stop wasting time on, because we Christians do actually know what we believe, so when this argument is presented, we know right away that here is a person who has no concept what Christians believe. We find this erroneous attempt to grapple with our faith amusing, but it certainly doesn't bather us. We know what we believe, and you do not. There's no shame in that. I don't pretend to understand islam either. I also don't understand Shinto beliefs; nor do I know about Sikh beliefs or Zoroastrian beliefs.
I have no interest in studying stuff I don't believe, any more than you actually try to understand Christianity and all those other faiths that are out there.
So go ahead and write what you want, but nobody buys your non-starter misunderstanding of what the Trinity signifies. In short, you are wasting your time. Surely there's something more important you could be doing.
You need to learn a bit more about the Holy Trinity.
The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states there is one true God who is made up of three separate but equal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments. For many biblical references, see: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11239928/Trinity-Outli...
Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three equal persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity in 325 C.E. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed. Later, the Holy Spirit guided the same Church to select which documents would become the Bible.
How the Blessed Trinity works is not fully known and is one the Christian mysteries.
The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is shared by over 2 billion souls, 99% of everyone who call themselves Christian including Roman and Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, and the Salvation Army.
Non-Trinitarian churches make up less than 1% of those who call themselves Christian and include Christadelphianism, Christian Science, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Arian Catholicism, Unitarianism, Nontrinitarianism, and Oneness Pentecostals.
For more information, see Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 232 and following.
The ancient formula of Judaism, the Shema, reads "Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God is one LORD." Deut 6:3 Judaism is strictly monotheistic. Curiously, though, to the puzzlement of Jewish scholars, the word for "one" is not the number one, but is the number for a unity, a union. It's the very same word used for the union/uniting of a man and woman in marriage.
Christianity is strictly monotheistic. There is only one God. But Jesus revealed that God is in three persons: the Father is the source, the Word/Son is eternally begotten of the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father. There was never a time when they did not exist together. They are of the same one divine essence, and all are rightly termed God.
There is One God, not Three, in Trinitarian Christianity.
Not all Christians believes in trinity. True Christians believe in one true God. Psalm 83:18 May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
Revelation 4:11“You are worthy, Jehovah* our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”
John 17:1 Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you, 2 just as you have given him authority over all flesh,* so that he may give everlasting life to all those whom you have given to him. 3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you,* the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
No you are the one who has a logical issue. Logically, anything that can be counted must be material and must possess a form(definite shape/size/boundaries).
What material is allah made of? we actually know his form- he has eyes/ears/mouth/therefore head/two hands with fingers on each/two legs- all these must be connected to one body for him to maintain oneness.
This is simply the description of a man. He can not be like wind and tell us that he is one- who counts winds? and which winds have physical hands?
If allah has all the above features; when did he actually obtain them? was it (a) before creation of Adam or (b) after the creation of Adam; If Adam has all the above,one of them must have been created in the image of the other- choose.
Incorrect. Christians believe in 1 God who displays 3 distinct persons. To think that anyone knows the totality of God's nature is rather naive. All we can do is respond to the way which God has revealed Himself to us. The Bible speaks clearly that the trinity exists yet there is only one God. For us it is impossible to understand how three distinct persons could exist yet there be only one God... it is beyond our perception and our way of thinking. But even science acknowledges the possibility of there existing life forms totally beyond our comprehension when they state that there could be as many as 11 dimensions rather than just our 4, and that each of these other dimensions could have a universe of its own with its own scientific laws that differ from ours and life forms which we could never possibly even imagine. What does a 8 dimensional life form look like?
No true Christian believes in 3 God's. John 20:17. Jesus either is God or he isn't...but by that scripture you'd have to claim 3 literal Gods. Contradicting Isaiah 45:5. There is no God but him. That being the one Jesus even called his God in John 20:17.
Not according to the Christian doctrine. There is one God who is a trinitarian God. One God comprised of three Persons. Together they form the Godhead. Very Confusing. It is a monotheistic religion.
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Christians have always been and will always be, monotheistic. One GOD in Three distinct Persons.
This is why muslim men are allowed to marry Christian women. If Christians were polytheists, your men would not be permitted to chase after Christian women and marry them since muslim men are not allowed to marry polytheistic women, like Hindus.
The confusion arose when the Islamic deity, called "Allah" (a name taken from the moon god of the pagan idol-worshiping pre-islamic tribes) supposedly dictated a book to a desert caravan robber names Mohammed and that god Allah said that the Christian Trinity was Allah, his wife Mary and their son Jesus. Well, everyone in the world knows that the Trinity is, and always was, and always will be the Father, Son and Spirit of God. But that mistake of Allah started the whole mess.
So I suggest you go to your top mullah and let him know that the quran needs some abrogation to clean it up- have him change the quran's dumb mistake about the Trinity.
And while you are at it, you guys should really use another word for your deity since he has nothing to do with the One true GOD of Abraham and Isaac.
later.
Sorry it is not clear to you personally, but the fact (you know what a fact is, right?) is that Christians generally believe in one God, and that this God is understood as having three natures or persons. This does not divide the God up; it merely points to three ways in which God is perceived.
I have heard this misunderstanding of the Christian view of God repeatedly. It is one of those things muslims ought to stop wasting time on, because we Christians do actually know what we believe, so when this argument is presented, we know right away that here is a person who has no concept what Christians believe. We find this erroneous attempt to grapple with our faith amusing, but it certainly doesn't bather us. We know what we believe, and you do not. There's no shame in that. I don't pretend to understand islam either. I also don't understand Shinto beliefs; nor do I know about Sikh beliefs or Zoroastrian beliefs.
I have no interest in studying stuff I don't believe, any more than you actually try to understand Christianity and all those other faiths that are out there.
So go ahead and write what you want, but nobody buys your non-starter misunderstanding of what the Trinity signifies. In short, you are wasting your time. Surely there's something more important you could be doing.
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You need to learn a bit more about the Holy Trinity.
The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states there is one true God who is made up of three separate but equal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments. For many biblical references, see: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11239928/Trinity-Outli...
Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three equal persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity in 325 C.E. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed. Later, the Holy Spirit guided the same Church to select which documents would become the Bible.
How the Blessed Trinity works is not fully known and is one the Christian mysteries.
The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is shared by over 2 billion souls, 99% of everyone who call themselves Christian including Roman and Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, and the Salvation Army.
Non-Trinitarian churches make up less than 1% of those who call themselves Christian and include Christadelphianism, Christian Science, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Arian Catholicism, Unitarianism, Nontrinitarianism, and Oneness Pentecostals.
For more information, see Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 232 and following.
With love in Christ.
The ancient formula of Judaism, the Shema, reads "Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God is one LORD." Deut 6:3 Judaism is strictly monotheistic. Curiously, though, to the puzzlement of Jewish scholars, the word for "one" is not the number one, but is the number for a unity, a union. It's the very same word used for the union/uniting of a man and woman in marriage.
Christianity is strictly monotheistic. There is only one God. But Jesus revealed that God is in three persons: the Father is the source, the Word/Son is eternally begotten of the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father. There was never a time when they did not exist together. They are of the same one divine essence, and all are rightly termed God.
There is One God, not Three, in Trinitarian Christianity.
All-Holy Trinity, glory to Thee!
Forgive me.
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Not all Christians believes in trinity. True Christians believe in one true God. Psalm 83:18 May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
Revelation 4:11“You are worthy, Jehovah* our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”
John 17:1 Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you, 2 just as you have given him authority over all flesh,* so that he may give everlasting life to all those whom you have given to him. 3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you,* the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
No you are the one who has a logical issue. Logically, anything that can be counted must be material and must possess a form(definite shape/size/boundaries).
What material is allah made of? we actually know his form- he has eyes/ears/mouth/therefore head/two hands with fingers on each/two legs- all these must be connected to one body for him to maintain oneness.
This is simply the description of a man. He can not be like wind and tell us that he is one- who counts winds? and which winds have physical hands?
If allah has all the above features; when did he actually obtain them? was it (a) before creation of Adam or (b) after the creation of Adam; If Adam has all the above,one of them must have been created in the image of the other- choose.
Incorrect. Christians believe in 1 God who displays 3 distinct persons. To think that anyone knows the totality of God's nature is rather naive. All we can do is respond to the way which God has revealed Himself to us. The Bible speaks clearly that the trinity exists yet there is only one God. For us it is impossible to understand how three distinct persons could exist yet there be only one God... it is beyond our perception and our way of thinking. But even science acknowledges the possibility of there existing life forms totally beyond our comprehension when they state that there could be as many as 11 dimensions rather than just our 4, and that each of these other dimensions could have a universe of its own with its own scientific laws that differ from ours and life forms which we could never possibly even imagine. What does a 8 dimensional life form look like?
No true Christian believes in 3 God's. John 20:17. Jesus either is God or he isn't...but by that scripture you'd have to claim 3 literal Gods. Contradicting Isaiah 45:5. There is no God but him. That being the one Jesus even called his God in John 20:17.
Not according to the Christian doctrine. There is one God who is a trinitarian God. One God comprised of three Persons. Together they form the Godhead. Very Confusing. It is a monotheistic religion.
Trouble-making shthead