The WBTS teaches that only the 144000 will not be flesh and blood using 1 Corinthians 15:42-44 as their proof:-
After Adam sinned, Jehovah purposed to set up a heavenly Kingdom in which some of Adam's descendants would "rule as kings over the earth" alongside Jesus Christ…..They were to be resurrected to immortal life in heaven. Their final number is 144,000, and the first ones among them were Jesus' faithful first-century disciples.
http://www.watchtower.org/e/20031115/article_02.ht...
Therefore the “other sheep” will remain flesh and blood, how can they inherit part of God’s kingdom that is ruled over by the 144000 if they are still flesh and blood?
1 Corinthians 15:50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God……………………….
Update:@BAR- ANERGES, said, ""Kingdom of heaven" is a term that is repeatedly used in the Scriptures also for those in the *earthly* realm of God's kingdom–not just for those resurrected to be heavenly kings with Christ."
As he says, earth is part of God's kingdom, how will the then flesh and blood "other sheep" inherit the kingdom of God?
Update 3:@pavmanjw, you better not tell God that "paradise Earth" is not part of His kingdom as He thinks that because He rules over it it is part of His kingdom.....
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They would not be able to be a part of "New Jerusalem" that descends to the earth at the end of the 1000 years...unless they were in that "Great Crowd" that no man can number, that washed their robes in the blood of the lamb, and these all come out of the Great Tribulation".
The "other dead" who will be resurrected in the 2nd resurrection are the "unrighteous wicked" who are resurrected at the end of the 1000 years to join, and do battle against the Holy City, with satan and the false prophet. This will be the 2nd. death for those resurrected flesh and blood who were not "Changed in a twinkling of an eye", at the sound of the last Trumpet.
Unless all jehovah's witnesses wash their robes in the blood of the lamb, and eat of His body, and drink His blood, they will not have any life in them.
All believers in Christ must be Born again.
Woe to those who are raised in the 2nd. resurrection, for they are raised to the 2nd death, with satan and the false prophet.
We must continue to reveal these things by Christ's power, until all of our brothers have been released from this captivity of men, the WT Society, and many others.
This is what Bar Anergies says;
"The very foundation of your argumentation is based on a faulty definition of what the term "kingdom of God" refers to in the Bible. Because of this fatal error of exegesis every conclusion you draw will be illogical and invalid."
Yours,
BAR-ANERGES
This poor man has not received the teaching of Holy Spirit, that unless a man eat and drink of the body and blood of Christ, he will not see the Kingdom of God.
Bar Anergies, that means the Kingdom of God IS upon the earth, or in the heavens,....both, but at different times of the age.
So the requirement to be "born again" is required by all men if they want to be in God's Kingdom.
Your founder, Joseph Rutherford "divided" the sheep into "two-classes", and by doing so, became himself "accursed for changing the Gospel of Jesus Christ", as will all men believing his faulty doctrines.
The entire Kingdom of God will reside upon the earth Bar, but it will not be until the end of those 1000 years....and I hope you see through the delusion of words, and subterfuge that is part and parcel of your writing style.
Blessings.
While the Bible clearly says in many, many places such as Proverbs 2:21, 22 and 2 Peter 3:13 the idea that humans will only live on earth during the 1,000 year reign is disproven by 1 word in Psalms 37:29. The word is the word "forever". Forever is forever, not only 1,000 years.
I have noticed about false religion is they ignore scriptures. Literally ignore them. I have had several back and forths with pastors or just experienced "Christians" and they straight up ignore verses that they cannot explain. It's very frustrating for me because now that I study with the witnesses there is not a verse that I find that cannot by interpreted by other scriptures in the bible. I'm very grateful for that.
The bible blatantly says the righteous will inherit the earth and live on it but it never says everyone goes to heaven. Instead of basing their beliefs on the bible, false religions base the bible on their beliefs (like the trinity). It's sad and I feel pity for people who buy into that.
The Kingdom of God Paul is referring to is the heavenly part of Gods Kingdom,God is a spirit as are his other creations that live in the rhelms above. but this Kingdom will not be isolated to the heavenly rhelm, Mathew 6-10 says Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. Many other scriptures also make it perfectly clear that Gods kingdom will rule over an obedient mankind living apon the earth, Mathew 5-5 says Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth, Isaiah agrees adding “They will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat their fruitage.”—Isaiah 65:21.
Psalms 37-11 too says "But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace", a peace that will only be possible by the rulership of God's Kingdom
The scripture you quoted *(1 Corinthians 15:50 ) Was the Apostle Paul revealing the truth that those resurrected to heavenly life as co-rulers with Christ will leave behind their fleshly bodies and become spiritual beings in the heavenly rhelm . If as your alluding to that no one remains on earth as flesh and blood under the rulership of Gods kingdom,its make these other scriptures void and never are the scriptures wrong!! So if there seems to be some type of contradiction then further understanding is needed. I do believe Jehovah's witnesses have revealed this important truth, in contrast other religions unscriptually teach that all good people go to heaven and bad people to hell but no explanation of these scriptures i quoted regarding the earth!!
I"m no scholar but the witnesses explanation seems to be consistent with God's word
*EDIT* Your quickness to give me and others a thumbs down without presenting a valid argument or providing evidence to the contrary seems to suggest that your not really interested in "truth" but purely use this site to try to undermine Jehovah's organization. Good luck with that, even a Pharisee named Ga·ma′li·el, a Law teacher esteemed by all the people was humble and wise enough to say "Do not meddle with these men, but let them alone; (because, if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from God, YOU will not be able to overthrow them;) otherwise, YOU may perhaps be found fighters actually against God.” Acts 5-38 You might wanna keep this in mind
Bar-Angry is as slippery as an eel and deceptive as a snake. As usual making bold statements and having nothing to back it up other than "he says so" or some of his own previous posts.
Hawaii is not part of the continental United States. In fact, it is a group of islands not attached to any continent. If asked though, each would say they are Americans and be correct. Under your view, they could never be so. Why?
@ Mercedes how is asking a question bashing anyone? The Jw'S say we are satan worshipers, we worship Idols, we are stuck in Christendom. If you ask me they are bashing us Christians.
Greetings,
It always amazes me how people will completely ignore explicit and clear teachings of the bible and instead jump through preposterous eisegetical hoops.
If you had done even the slightest research you would have seen that the phrase "kingdom of heaven" does not mean a person must literally be "in" heaven. In fact, inheriting the "Kingdom of heaven" is a term that is repeatedly used in the Scriptures also for those in the *earthly* realm of God's kingdom–not just for those resurrected to be heavenly kings with Christ.
Standard lexicons and dictionaries would show you that the term "Kingdom of God" is used as an all encompassing term in Scripture to describe various aspects of God's rule. It is used of either the literal heavens, or the present spiritual kingdom state, or the future millennial rule on earth. Only the context can determine whether the intended reference is to the God's heavenly realm or to the earthly realm or whether it is present or future.
Notice how many commentators recognize that the phrase "kingdom of God" is used of things within the earthly realm of God's kingdom such as the EARTHLY congregation or the SPIRITUAL STATE of the Christian under Christ's rulership:
RWP: (Mt 3:2): "The other Gospels use "the kingdom of God" as Matthew does a few times, but he has "the kingdom of heaven" over thirty times. He means "the reign of God."
Barnes' Notes Mt. 3:2: "The phrases, kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven,...there is no doubt that it sometimes refers to the state of things in the church; ...—his spiritual reign began in the church on earth,...THE PHRASE, THEN, SHOULD NOT BE CONFINED TO ANY PERIOD OF THAT REIGN, BUT INCLUDES HIS WHOLE DOMINION OVER HIS PEOPLE ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN."
"The Biblical evidence seems to indicate that the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven are referring to the same time, or kingdom, and that is THE PHYSICAL KINGDOM OF CHRIST ON EARTH."--Stanley L. Derickson Ph.D.; The Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God
So, the term "Kingdom of God" is used in Scripture to describe various aspects of God's rule, whether the present state, the heavenly realm or the future earthly realm.
Reference works cite many examples of where the phrase “kingdom of God” refers to something on earth such as a spiritual state or the extension of God’s rulership among His followers:
Christ said we should pray that God’s kingdom would come in the context of earth (Mt 6:10). It would literally destroy other earthly governments and rule the earth forever (Dan 2:44; Re 11:15).
While on earth Christ’s followers would “seek first the kingdom” (Mt. 6:33; Rm. 14:17).
While on earth Christ said that the “kingdom of God” was “in their midst” and had “overtaken” them (Lk 17:20, 21; Mt 12:28; Lk 11:20).
Clearly, as many references will point out, none of these examples were speaking of being in heaven!
On the other hand, it is clear that the context of 1Cor.15 is speaking of those who will be resurrected to the heavenly realm of God’s kingdom. It contrasts earthly physical bodies with the heavenly spirit ones. In verse 45 we are given an example: Adam was a physical being and Jesus became a spirit being. The Bible always contrasts a physical corruptible body with an incorruptible spirit body. Only spirit bodies can exist in heaven (1Cor.15:40-50).
"Paul establishes the fundamental proviso that the heavenly existence of those raised from the dead is categorically not visual..."—Conzelmann & Lindemann; Interpreting the N.T.; 184
Paul also says that Christ will be "the exact representation of God's very being" (Heb. 1:3). God is a Spirit and has never been flesh! Paul says that those resurrected to heaven do not keep their visible fleshly bodes but rather, their "earthly tents" are "dissolved" (2Cor. 5:1-10, Cf. 2Pt.1:13-14). Peter states that they will not be flesh but will "be sharers in divine nature" (2Pt 1:4). Those resurrected to heaven experience a resurrection like Christ's and will "be like Jesus" (1Jn 3:2; Rm. 6:5). Obviously, they all have spirit bodies!
So, while 1Cor.15 is speaking about entering the literal heavenly kingdom of God, many other verses show the phrase “kingdom of God” can also be used of humans who are under the rulership of Christ on earth (1Ch 29:11; Ps 103:19).
It is clear that Scriptures hold out two destinies for humans. Jesus himself indicated two "hopes" for Christians in Mat.5:3 and 5:5, one who would *rule* in the Kingdom of heaven (Jn.14:2; Col.1:5 1Pt.1:4; Lk.22:29,30) and the other would inherit the earth (Ps.37,9,10,29; Rev.21:3,4; cf. 2Pet.3:12- 13; Rev.21:1,3,4).
The very foundation of your argumentation is based on a faulty definition of what the term "kingdom of God" refers to in the Bible. Because of this fatal error of exegesis every conclusion you draw will be illogical and invalid.
Yours,
BAR-ANERGES
Um, I'm Catholic but- why do you go on here to bash Jehovahs Witnesses? Talk about hate.
just follow the black sheep. he seems to know where he's going