Liberals claim that abortion hurts no one , they also claim that we should respect the mother’s “choice “ to abort her child . Lastly they claim that the baby in the womb feels no pain when being aborted ..
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-liberals get mad when mothers “choose” to abort their daughters .
- they also dislike when they think about parents in the future having the “choice” of aborting children predicted to be gay .
- they dislike it when a woman has “chosen” to abort in more than 5 occasions .
- they don’t like it either when a woman “chooses “ to abort during the second or third trimester of pregnancy .
Why ? If abortion is a good thing ... “a choice” and it hurts no one then why do liberals imply that abortion is not a good thing in some cases ?
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Liberals have no opinion on what a woman's "reasons for aborting" are and the rest of your fantasy land arguments based on "what Liberals think" are equally ridiculous.
Abortion is killing another human being... never a good thing!
I didn't have to read the rest of the question.
I do not think abortion is a good thing. I think having *access* to abortion is a good thing, because sometimes abortion is the *least bad* choice. And I think that... the reasons for having abortion are so personal, and involve factors that are so variable and/or hard to quantify, that the rules restricting abortion should be... mostly restricting *late term* abortions for non-medical reasons. Everyone should have a chance to decide whether or not they are going to go through with all of the risks and harms inherent in pregnancy and childbirth, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that one should make that decision as early as practical, and not be allowed to change their minds past a certain point.
The reason I object to later abortions is because, well, it's a balancing act between the rights of the fetus and the rights of the pregnant woman. In my opinion, a zygote has essentially no meaningful rights. It's just a single cell, with no possibility of cognition (as to the question of souls... that's not a debate I want to get into). The closer to birth you get, however, the closer the fetus is to being a person in a morally meaningful sense. When you're talking about a fetus that's 8 months along, the only really moral reason to abort is to, well, prevent the death (or at least probable death) of the mother. It's not a matter of inconsistency, it's a matter of the balance of rights shifting.
Sex-selective abortions, whether it's boys or girls who are being selected... one, they tend to be fairly far along in the pregnancy, so you're getting into "this might be a person" territory afaik. Two, as someone mentioned, it's often due to social pressure on the mother, not the mother's free choice.
Does that make sense to you?
Liberals don't like it when abortion is used as a way of snubbing your nose at equality. Personally, I don't think women should even be questioned about their motives for abortion. Their body, their choice. It's no one else's business.
It is a life that you are taking. In what way, shape or form is this a good thing?
I do NOT think abortions are a good thing in any scenario. But I do think a woman should have the option to have one if she needs to. Of course I also believe there should be some restrictions on it. I do not believe you should abort a fetus that is viable. At that stage a c-section should be done, and the infant put up for adoption.
no one thinks it's a good thing
you have a serious problem grasping reality
Generalizations are never a good idea. They are symptoms of ignorance.
Liberals have a range of opinions on abortion. They don't all believe the same things. No one's certain (that includes pro-lifers) whether fetuses feel pain when aborted, for example. It's been difficult for even most medical researchers to say with any confidence whether, say, a 6-8 week fetus does or does not, and the vast majority of abortions do take place in the first trimester.
Most of us do think that abortion is a very personal decision, that only the women in question is really in a position to make it. However, we don't like abortion for sex selection, because the woman would be perfectly happy to have the baby if it were a boy and because she's usually under cultural pressure and often pressure from a husband and in-laws. Her choice is not freely and personally made. As for using abortion for birth control -- who could be in favor of that when it's so much easier, simpler, and cheaper just to use contraception? We need to make sure sex education, including education on contraception, is widely available. Many conservatives don't want that. Apparently, they'd rather that abortions take place.
After that, well, liberal views vary. My own is that abortion on demand up to 16 weeks, when the fetus is not at all viable outside of the mother's body, is fine, but in the 5th and 6th months, only a serious medical reason justifies abortion, because the fetus is so close to viability or has reached it. And there's no good reason for a third trimester abortion at all. After 6 months, the baby -- and by this time it definitely is a viable baby -- can be delivered by C-section and have a good chance of survival. If the mother does not want to keep it, she can place it for adoption.
But other people do not share my opinions. They think the choice should be a choice at whatever point in a pregnancy and for whatever reason.
My point is that views on abortion can be nuanced and various, as you'd expect, because human beings are various. That's the way it's always going to be on most subjects. You can't expect utter uniformity unless you are extremely naïve or extremely unrealistic. Conservatives, too, vary on a variety of subjects. And I have an old friend who was the director of a women's clinic before her recent retirement. She says she saw a surprising number of women who told her that they were anti-abortion, but they wanted an abortion anyway. Go figure.
In other words, human beings can be gloriously, amazingly, inconsistent on abortion and many other topics. Get used to it.
Your generalizations are not true. And abortion is not a good thing EXCEPT when it will reasonably save a mother's life. In which case you don't really have a choice. Death or death isn't much of a choice.
The human carried in the womb is ALWAYS hurt/killed with abortion. Babies in the womb do feel pain. It's not the woman's body; it is the body of another human inside the woman's body.
Abortion should NEVER be a matter of convenience. If having a child, being pregnant, is not convenient then don't have sex or take appropriate measure to make certain that no pregnancy can occur. Elective surgery on your body is an option...sterilization.
Choices/actions ALWAYS have consequences. Choose wisely.
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