…can this truth be recovered the Garden love?“I will make him a helper suitable for him”
How this to fit, as made to work out without dying? (Without the tree of life to eat of) In these words of Jesus, what’s your understanding and or experiences as in the one Spirit and flesh.
10Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.” http://nasb.scripturetext.com/john/4.htm
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” 25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 26and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”
http://nasb.scripturetext.com/john/11.htm
So we, are, always talking about love and being happy can in ishshah and ish be forever in Love?
What does love got to do with it, and what dose truth has to do with it?
What is the hidden Secret the Holy Grail in all this?
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Thanks for the giving all you got in all your words and heart.
Genesis 2:23 The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman (ishshah),
Because she was taken out of Man (ish).”
Genesis 2:24For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
Genesis 2: 25And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.
http://nasb.scripturetext.com/genesis/2-1.htm
Update:TitusMaximus
much good insight (((((Thanks)))))
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Whether you understand my answer or not is not important, but I will answer this as easily as I can so not to make it more complicated. When men and woman become one in spirit, and are truthful and equal in all things pertaining to God, then the souls together become Immortal through our loving Father that the world knows not. This changing of two souls into one Immortal soul is the marriage many have gotten wrong between the bridegroom and his bride. This connection is between the Father and his church. Note: Religions always talk about the Father, but never mention the Mother. Why is that? All souls in all beings come into this world as mortal spirits of this world. The breath of our Father that gives life, is truth. Not worldly taught truths, but truths from him within our heart and mind. The Mother dwells within our soul, but few find her let alone release her, for they are to busy being manly in a world where women are considered weaker because of wrong teachings of scripture misrepresented by worldly loving men who wish to never share their power with anyone. Not even the woman they marry or who gave them birth. This statement from Jesus says much, but few truly believe it. "The meek shall inherit the earth" Many see meekness as weakness, thus women are weak to them in many ways. Yet, men who show meekness are seen as cowards and even at time less than women. How sad for the world to think so with such narrow-mindedness. Those who are joined by the Father are one with the Father and thus they shall return back to the Father from whom they came. This takes a man and a woman, equal in all things to each other. The reason the world will never grasp such love is because they truly haven't found the loving Father from whom all derived from. Instead they cling to a God of fear, hate, ridicule, revenge, and war, which is Satan, and they don't even know it. There is a short line in the Nag Hammdi that states this one truth which I believe few will believe let alone understand. "If all the baptisms of the churches truly saved ones soul, this world would be empty." This world is Hell, and those who find truths beyond the teachings of men shall not return to it, but go to my Fathers mansions, which he has many, just as my brother Jesus said to his disciples.
Go only by what God has given you. Do not go by what mankind has added in order to supplement lack of understanding. There is a misalignment of translation. The mind has been programed from birth to adulthood. We tend to read over certain aspects we are programed to believe. It is a trick of the eye. For instance: Gen. ch1 vs 27 and Gen. ch5 vs 1 confirm that Adam is a people of both male and female. We have been programed to believe that the Woman and a Female are the same thing. A feminine pronouns is used for woman, such as "she" as you would for the word Female. However, they are to different things. The Woman has always stood for the Church system of oneness and togetherness as a body and faith of and in God. Jesus is the husband to the bride (the body of believers both male and female) which is why Jesus is called the Second Adam. The strange woman is the worldly church system which is one of carnality that tries to build its own tower to heaven. Eve is the Woman or Church system taken out of the chosen of God: The Adam people. the pronoun "him" is used when discussing Adam, because the people are the masculine form of a church system (Eve) who is the Mother of all Living. The Church (Eve) was supposed to be churning out Sons of God by leading the Living Creatures (people who come out of the world and were on a path to son-ship) (remember Peters vision of the cornucopia of animals?) There souls had been enlightened. The Eve, she, fell into the temptation of sensuality of the senses, and the Adam people followed wholeheartedly. When Adam was cast out of the garden and back into Eden scripture does not denote Eve being cast out, as well, because Eve is the Wife, and can not be separated from the people or congregation. They carry the church and its doctrine with them. The term "Man" in the original text always stood for Adam, both male and female or Mankind. The world still flips back and forth on that one, too, saying, man is a male, and then it says, man is mankind. When you read, "this is now flesh of my flesh and bone of my bones" this is the very same thing Jesus said at the last supper. Jesus was always speaking by the Spirit (always). What do you think Jesus meant when He called Mary His own mother "Woman" instead of calling her mom or Mary? Jesus was speaking by the Spirit. Scripture says, the New Jerusalem is the "Mother of us all". When Jesus spoke to Mary as "Woman" He was Spiritually saying to His "Body" or "Bride" "My time is not yet come". Jesus had to make the moment correct. If you look at it from the worlds eye view, you will come up with, Mary, the mother of Jesus is the foundation of the true church just as they did with Peter when they thought Jesus called him a Rock or pebble or stone. Spiritually you will see that Jesus was using Mary as the example of His Bride, because Mary was putting the cart before the horse. His Bride had not come forth as yet. He had not yet even picked the twelve. Jesus, however, accomplished one of the greatest miracles with the six water pots of stone, by turning water into wine. Also, notice how it is the Man being discussed when speaking of leaving his Father and Mother. It says nothing of a woman or daughter or even a son. It says when a Man leaves. A male or female who is ready to become a ministering Spirit or Son in God ministering to his Wife the Church. The minister is the masculine form to the body or congregation, feminine form, who is submissive to the teaching. These are the types of language changes that were made at th tower of Babel. God does begin (starting with Abraham) to communicate through the understanding of Mankind (as a shadow of Spirit form) in order to establish or progress Mankind through the old, and finally to the new covenant. There is much to say...
Sorry if this a bit choppy, but I am just off third shift...good night and God Bless.
For me, I look at it as simple as this. Woman is "man" with a "womb," hence you get w o m b m a n, minus the "b" in the middle, you get woman.
Titus has spoken well. and is loved... by the Spirit so much... we do love this Spirit which reveals heavens news.. haha...
I know in my heart that we do become ...bone of my bones.... as we come into our Lord the Alpha and Omega... we are engrafted we do know into the vine... but if we come from above.. then we must be the bones that do come Living Bones... of Life.. eternal in Christ...
more later
Psalms 35: 9`10
There are two stories biblically for us to see Carey, the story of God, and the story of us. God made us humans as the pinnacle of Creation after His own image, blessed us both male and female, ish and ishshah! Adam was called "ha-adam" or 'soil creature' ! out of haadamah, came every beast of the field, and birds of the sky.
Adam had no "erer-kenegdo" ( no suitable helper), To be made in God's image, means "to be not alone' hence us... When God made us...(and the words spoken... we see them as... "Let us make man in our image) the importance of relationships is formed here. After EVE was made, is when God said everything was very good.
Ezer ~kenegdo ~ does not imply that she is inferior to man ~ for nearly everytime we hear this word in the Story of God, it refers to God: the helper of Israel. For this reason ish leaves his father and mother and shall join ish~ shah! Ish and ishshah are created equal and equally bear the image of God ~ in the Garden they were naked and not ashamed. The two were entirely vulnerable with each other, and with God, friends with God and with each other. The peace of the Sabbath was with them too... because all was well in God's bosom and in the Garden. Shabbot Shalom, means the peace of the Sabbath be with you... and it means all is well within God's world.
Okay, now for John 4... Jesus Christ our Lord, speaks on Living Water ~ springs of flowing water, the woman sees this concretely, but not in the metaphorical way Jesus Christ is referring too, in other words she sees this with physical discernment. What Jesus is challenging in her, is to come to the realization, and to each of us too, to see our spiritual need of thirst, and for Right relationship with God. The gift of God comes with Living Waters... meaning all of our greatest and deepest needs will be met... we won't thirst ever again. When we wake up to this fact, we see this free gift (doron) then we are able to face our sins, and seek the Lord.
It is amazing how the woman began to dart back and forth, as we have done too, not wanting to see our real sin or the real issues... that hurt us. Jesus confronts her, and says..."Call your husband" He is not sidetracked, as she tries to go into debates of theology with Him. ((She says... "You Jews say"). She faces her sin, and one can read the rest of this story in John 4. What struck me... is this... beauty of truth.. When He says, ‘Call your husband.’ to me, this means, we are to call on Him... as HE is our Spiritual HUSBAND! HE was showing us the way here... beautiful inspiring me and should inspire us... all! Hallelujah!!!!!
John 11...should interest us, for we know Martha, had total faith in Jesus but even so was unconsciously limiting His power to act, in her present time. We always see the words NOW being mentioned in scriptures Carey. Martha so like most of us, assumes Lazarus will be raised, in the future by Christ... not realizing that Jesus intended to raise Lazarus NOW> What is key here too...is this...wonderful truth?
"I am the resurrection and the Life." Lord of both physical and spiritual realms and life in each realm. Endless life is the gift with God in our midst as our friend and soul mate forever, for all who come to Belief... and this is for us, those made in His image...
'Jesus Wept' ~ John 11:35... another soul measure of treasure for us, showers us too Carey... as we come to feel this love from above, if he doesn't answer our prayers as quickly (remembering Martha's response here) it is not because he does not care, he shares our sufferings.. Jesus (God) weeps with us and for us.
Many came to Jesus that day, because of this miracle ~ Jesus Christ is the miracle that restores Faith, convincing those many who hesitated, while it hardened the hearts of the opponents, who worried about loss in this physical world ~ chief priest and Pharisees. Also noteworthy here is to have a glimpse that those who believed came to the woman Mary... and she helped them.
Now... here is what religion does... we see who tries to stop and counter this action... from being enlightened in us... The hardened opponents were the political and religious leaders of Judaism as they feared Jesus would take their place ~ John 11:47~50) essentially shows us how, evil men will always ascribe Evil to others motives however pure those might be.
REad John 11" 47 50
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