For some time I have been making the claim that the odds of the Baha’i Faith fulfilling by chance the numerous time prophecies from Holy Scriptures of several religions, Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Islamic, Native American and others are less than one in the total number of protons, electrons and neutrons in 18 quadrillion universes the size of our own known Universe. I would like to offer an at least temporary correction.
I fairly recently discovered prophecies that I do not believe I have considered before and was evaluating them. When I originally performed my analysis and then made my claim that I mentioned above, I put the facts and figures into a computer file and saved it to a hard drive. I have over a dozen external hard drives plus even more internal ones with some of them being utilized only occasionally. Some of those hard drives have irrevocably and irreparably crashed. Whether a crashed hard drive is the cause or I am not using the proper terms while doing a search, I can no longer find that file, nor the backup that I made just in case. There was so much research and time put into that original claim I’ve not the heart at the moment to try to redo it. So, at least for the present I am going to state and stand by the following claim.
It is estimated that the number of elemental atomic particles — protons, electrons and neutrons — in the observable Universe is 10 to the power of 80. To put that into perspective, the odds of winning the Powerball lottery jackpot are only 1 in 175,223,510 or less than 2 times 10 to the power of seven. If one limits the consideration of prophecies from the various religions to only the very specific time prophecies, the odds of them being fulfilled by chance are less than one in 10 to the power of 76. When one adds into consideration the remainder of the various prophecies, we quickly reach a figure of practical impossibility.
My sincerest apologies for making a claim that I now unable to back up. Whether eventually I resurrect my original figure or even revise it upwards only time will tell.
Update:Sorry, some of it did not paste properly. Try this instead:
Native American prophecies? The following should give you a start.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/691769.Warriors...
http://www.worldcat.org/title/four-remarkable-indi...
http://bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/mayan.htm
Update 3:@Ba, Overthinking Prophecy? And by so doing completely ignore what Gave us, and gave us for a reason? Seems to me that ignoring prophecy is ignoring principles God gave us. You might be happy with just a spoonful, but I want the entire slice, would not be satisfied with less. There are other things besides religion, but from where I am sitting, religion makes it all much better. Instead of me overthinking, you are perhaps underthinking? Perhaps the world would be better off if everyone followed God-given Baha'i Principles and quite trying to make everyone else fit a mold meant for ourself only. I am living my life the way I believe I should, the way that I found best fits me. And that keeps me more than happy enough, more than satisfied enough.
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Allah'u'Abha my brother.
There are many paths to the truth.
Our Faith was promoting elimination of racism in the 1800s and I can see it being put into action today. It promoted the elimination of prejudice, the equality of men and women, and the oneness of religion. Now I'm hearing from Christians that all religions are worthy or respect and I wouldn't have believed it would happen if I didn't see it for myself.
If I have offended anyone, please ignore my offense, I really don't mean any harm.
how do you arrive at the probabilities stated? You are using some heavy assumptions that you are not telling us. All the mentioned phropecies have been fulfilled some day in the past, right? You are calculating the probability under the assumptions of these events happening naturally?
But I think you forget to include all the phrophecys that has not come true. Imagine you throw a dice 1000 times and you get a six 169 times. As time goes by you only remember the times the dice showed a 6. So you remember 169 sixes out of 169 tries. In that setting that event has a probability of 1 to 3.2*10^131.
So as long as you don't keep track of the unsuccesful phrophecies(they might not have been recorded), the low probability that you calculate is nothing special. If you could include the unsuccesfull prophecies, we could make a proper statistical test^1 to show us if the number of successes is spectacular.
The prophecies of my Nation have nothing to do with any gods, nor bear any resemblance to those that can be found in other religions. You won't find them in books, or on websites...because we aren't sharing them with you. Sure, you might find some crap written by a new-ager, with a claim of Native slapped on it....but it will be dripping with nonsense and middle-eastern superstition.
That is likely because we have NO gods, nor need any.
*LMAO
They are no longer Ojibwe in beliefs then, just in citizenship. BIG difference. Nothing in Baha'i can be parallelled to anything Traditionally Anishinaabe. It is no secret that many have lost their path and jumped on another's. That is why there are also many Native Christians. We've had so much of our cultures stripped from us, its only natural that some seek out religions to fill the void genocide has left.
Your nonsense additions about moccasins is laughably new-age.
wowzers.....I totally don't understand your apology...which is fine, but I am extremely curious to know what Native American prophecies you are speaking of.....