(John 20:28) is just another text that is not easily countered by the Jehovah’s witnesses. Throughout their history they have tried different explanations, none of which hold up under scrutiny. Thomas’s exclamation, “My Lord and my God,” is too emphatic to be read as merely a title of honour. Because, Here Jesus is addressed as God (a nominative form with definite article, which functions as a vocative). The scene is designated to serve as a climax to the Gospel: As the resurrected Jesus stands before his disciples, one of their number at last gives expression to an adequate faith in Jesus. He does this by applying to Jesus the Greek (Septuagint) equivalent of two terms applied to the God of the Old Testament (Kyrios, ‘Lord,’ rendering Yahweh, and Theos, ‘God,’ rendering Elohim). The best example of the Old Testament usage is in (Psalm 35:23) where the Psalmist cries out, ‘My God and my Lord.
The JW’s say that the synoptic gospels Matt/Mark/Luke. Do not clearly call Jesus God, (Although I don’t agree), the Gospel of John here clearly does, along with Hebrews and other New Testament texts. The truth is, if there is even just ONE text that proclaims Jesus as God, the Jehovah’s witness position crumbles. Despite the number of JW so-called “proof texts” used, it only takes one text decisively proving that Jesus is God to destroy their case, and this verse does just that, because all texts are inspired of God.
When Thomas saw the risen Christ a week later, he was overwhelmed at the reality of Jesus standing bodily in front of him, with the wounds visible. Thomas no longer doubted but declared the risen Christ to be his Lord and his God. Thomas knew there is only one God, not two, and Jesus accepted his worship. If Jesus had just been a created angel as JWs believe, he should have rebuked Thomas immediately. So, Jesus is indeed the Lord and the God of Thomas, as He is of all Christians who believe what the Bible says about Him - e.g. John 1:1-14.
Jesus is not Jehovah God and is not incarnate. do not know why some say that Jesus is God incarnate. it is Jehovah God and Jesus Christ the Son of Jehovah read John chapter 17 verse 3. also man makes saints. the apostles where imperfect just like we are and they are not saints
Who is the God of the heavenly glorified Jesus when he tell us about 'my God'
at Revelation 3:2, 12
(Revelation 3:2, 12) “2 Become watchful, and strengthen the things remaining that were ready to die, for I have not found your works fully performed before my God.
. . . 12 “‘The one who conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God,. . .”
If you believe Jesus is God Almighty according to John 20:28, then this makes his God at Revelation 3:2; "God the Greater than Almighty"
Or why does Jesus tell Mary, that her relationship with God, the exact same relationship he has with God?
(John 20:17) “17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’””
So why did the apostle John write his gospel? To prove Jesus is God?
No he wrote it prove that Jesus is the Son of God.
(John 20:30, 31) “30 To be sure, Jesus also performed many other signs before the disciples, which are not written down in this scroll. 31 But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, . . .”
From what Jesus tells us and from what John tells us.
Thomas is NOT saying Jesus is God Almighty. The scriptures repeatedly talk about Jesus and his God in the same sentence.
One of my favorites is:
(Revelation 1:5, 6) “5 and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood— 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father. . .”
What John is telling us about the God and Father of the heavenly glorified Jesus Christ, the faithful witness. The God who gave Jesus the Revelation passed down to John and then to us.
or how about:
Paul words to the Romans
(Romans 15:5, 6) “5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant you to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 so that unitedly you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
We should have the mental attitude of Jesus and with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus.
And Peter who tells us to praise whom?
(1 Peter 1:3) “3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,”
It would only be natural for Thomas to acknowledge Jesus as his Lord. and to give glory to the God and Father of his Lord, Jesus, Jesus' God is also his God.
2) Did Thomas in John 20 Say my Lord and my God to Jesus Christ when he put he hand into his side
Yes.
Also we have Col 1:16-18, which teaches that Jesus is the creator of all created things. That is not possible if Jesus is himself a creation.
Also we have Heb 1:10-12, which passage the author claims describes Jesus. We see the very same passage in Psa 102:22-27, and there the author teaches us that passage describes "God", "Jehovah" (or "Yahweh" or "the LORD", depending on your translation).
Clearly the authors of Colossians and Hebrews believed that Jesus was God and not some mere creation.
Heb chapter 1 also makes it clear that Jesus is not an angel.
That is a reasonable question. To get a better understanding, it would be of benefit to consider to context and surrounding verses in that chapter (chapter 20 of John).
Jesus is a god in the sense of being divine, but he is not the Father (the one True God and Creator of all things). Jesus had just told Mary Magdalene: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.” Remember, too, why John wrote his Gospel. Three verses after the account about Thomas, John explained that he wrote so that people “may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God”—not that he is God.—John 20:17, 28, 31.
John 20:31 - "But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name"
Answers & Comments
(John 20:28) is just another text that is not easily countered by the Jehovah’s witnesses. Throughout their history they have tried different explanations, none of which hold up under scrutiny. Thomas’s exclamation, “My Lord and my God,” is too emphatic to be read as merely a title of honour. Because, Here Jesus is addressed as God (a nominative form with definite article, which functions as a vocative). The scene is designated to serve as a climax to the Gospel: As the resurrected Jesus stands before his disciples, one of their number at last gives expression to an adequate faith in Jesus. He does this by applying to Jesus the Greek (Septuagint) equivalent of two terms applied to the God of the Old Testament (Kyrios, ‘Lord,’ rendering Yahweh, and Theos, ‘God,’ rendering Elohim). The best example of the Old Testament usage is in (Psalm 35:23) where the Psalmist cries out, ‘My God and my Lord.
The JW’s say that the synoptic gospels Matt/Mark/Luke. Do not clearly call Jesus God, (Although I don’t agree), the Gospel of John here clearly does, along with Hebrews and other New Testament texts. The truth is, if there is even just ONE text that proclaims Jesus as God, the Jehovah’s witness position crumbles. Despite the number of JW so-called “proof texts” used, it only takes one text decisively proving that Jesus is God to destroy their case, and this verse does just that, because all texts are inspired of God.
When Thomas saw the risen Christ a week later, he was overwhelmed at the reality of Jesus standing bodily in front of him, with the wounds visible. Thomas no longer doubted but declared the risen Christ to be his Lord and his God. Thomas knew there is only one God, not two, and Jesus accepted his worship. If Jesus had just been a created angel as JWs believe, he should have rebuked Thomas immediately. So, Jesus is indeed the Lord and the God of Thomas, as He is of all Christians who believe what the Bible says about Him - e.g. John 1:1-14.
Jesus is not Jehovah God and is not incarnate. do not know why some say that Jesus is God incarnate. it is Jehovah God and Jesus Christ the Son of Jehovah read John chapter 17 verse 3. also man makes saints. the apostles where imperfect just like we are and they are not saints
A better question is:
Who is the God of the heavenly glorified Jesus when he tell us about 'my God'
at Revelation 3:2, 12
(Revelation 3:2, 12) “2 Become watchful, and strengthen the things remaining that were ready to die, for I have not found your works fully performed before my God.
. . . 12 “‘The one who conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God,. . .”
If you believe Jesus is God Almighty according to John 20:28, then this makes his God at Revelation 3:2; "God the Greater than Almighty"
Or why does Jesus tell Mary, that her relationship with God, the exact same relationship he has with God?
(John 20:17) “17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’””
So why did the apostle John write his gospel? To prove Jesus is God?
No he wrote it prove that Jesus is the Son of God.
(John 20:30, 31) “30 To be sure, Jesus also performed many other signs before the disciples, which are not written down in this scroll. 31 But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, . . .”
From what Jesus tells us and from what John tells us.
Thomas is NOT saying Jesus is God Almighty. The scriptures repeatedly talk about Jesus and his God in the same sentence.
One of my favorites is:
(Revelation 1:5, 6) “5 and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood— 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father. . .”
What John is telling us about the God and Father of the heavenly glorified Jesus Christ, the faithful witness. The God who gave Jesus the Revelation passed down to John and then to us.
or how about:
Paul words to the Romans
(Romans 15:5, 6) “5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant you to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 so that unitedly you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
We should have the mental attitude of Jesus and with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus.
And Peter who tells us to praise whom?
(1 Peter 1:3) “3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,”
It would only be natural for Thomas to acknowledge Jesus as his Lord. and to give glory to the God and Father of his Lord, Jesus, Jesus' God is also his God.
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Please see the Bible’s answer to the question: “Is Jesus God?”
Click link below: https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2009250...
Yes, to both questions. Of course Jesus is God. He is the second Person of the Godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
1) Is Jesus Christ God?
According to the Bible: yes.
2) Did Thomas in John 20 Say my Lord and my God to Jesus Christ when he put he hand into his side
Yes.
Also we have Col 1:16-18, which teaches that Jesus is the creator of all created things. That is not possible if Jesus is himself a creation.
Also we have Heb 1:10-12, which passage the author claims describes Jesus. We see the very same passage in Psa 102:22-27, and there the author teaches us that passage describes "God", "Jehovah" (or "Yahweh" or "the LORD", depending on your translation).
Clearly the authors of Colossians and Hebrews believed that Jesus was God and not some mere creation.
Heb chapter 1 also makes it clear that Jesus is not an angel.
CREATOR FATHER is GOD
1. Christ is the Son of God.
2. Jesus is the son of man;
3. Christ lived in Jesus as Christ can live in us. Jesus last name wasn't Christ.
EVERYONE is born with a little Christ in him.
John was over 100 years old and blind when his disciple wrote his Gospel around 101A.D. under the scrutiny of the Romans. Thomas could be misquoted.
That is a reasonable question. To get a better understanding, it would be of benefit to consider to context and surrounding verses in that chapter (chapter 20 of John).
Jesus is a god in the sense of being divine, but he is not the Father (the one True God and Creator of all things). Jesus had just told Mary Magdalene: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.” Remember, too, why John wrote his Gospel. Three verses after the account about Thomas, John explained that he wrote so that people “may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God”—not that he is God.—John 20:17, 28, 31.
John 20:31 - "But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name"
For more on this topic, please see the following link … https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g20050422/...
I believe that at that moment that Thomas realized that Yeshua was in some way GOD incarnate.