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Her refusig to sign the prenup is PROOF that she was planning on taking him to the cleaners later. If she loved him, she wouldnt care about that, she would just want to get married right away and the preup wouldnt matter to her at all. Thye fact that she refused to sign it, and probably got REALLY angry just shows what she really wants. and it aint his love.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a prenup (not prenub) - I offered one to my husband, though he declined. And I certainly don't think we'll have need for one ever.

The fact is, prenups are just an insurance policy. You may not think your house will ever catch fire, but does that stop you from having smoke alarms, fire extinguishers and home owners insurance? If you live in the safest neighborhood in the safest town in the safest state - is it wrong to have a security system installed? No. It's just another level of safety. You still love your house and your neighborhood and it's highly unlikely that anything would ever happen to make you feel otherwise, but should something happen there's nothing wrong with having a safety net.

That said - I think you are looking for an out. The way you phrase things: "refuses to sign" "should that give him every justification" "being realistic regarding the current state of marriage" "before all the women start clawing at me" "in the event she decided to screw him over." You seem fearful of a bad reaction and like you need justification desperately. If this was the right woman for you and you were confident of that - I think you'd phrase things differently. You'd be more concerned about how and why she feels that way, rather than if you are right to call things off - don't you think.

If she is the one for you, talk it out with her and explain how you feel and listen to how she feels. Then decide if this is still a sticking point for you and then let HER decide how to proceed.

The funny thing with marriage is that it constitutes a major contract, in fact the most significant contract that people undertake in their lives, but the courts refuse to treat it as such. If someone misrepresents an important term in a contract, it becomes null and void, but for some reason, when people misrepresent themselves w/r to a marriage, the parties cannot divorce.

NORMALLY, and particularly concerning marriage, a contract is an agreement willingly undertook by two persons. Unfortunately, in our society, people are often pressured into marriage the woman gets pregnant «by accident», or the man impregnates her «by accident». That is already a bad start. According to Christian theology, a marriage whose consent is adulterated, is invalid in the eyes of God and the kids are illegitimate. A large percentage of men who marry women because they are pregnant, are marrying ruthless manipulators who have no concern for the interest, welfare, and happiness of the husband, unless the man impregnated her purposefully, in which case he is the manipulator.

If the fiancee refuses to sign a prenuptial agreement, you have the absolute right to call the marriage off and you probably should call the marriage off: It's your duty to protect yourself and to avoid any situation and any vulnerability in which people may take advantage of you. Any such misrepresentation or omission should be dealth very attentively and with integrity.

A prenup is a negoitated agreement between two parties- if you simply present a document to her that she had no part in creating, she should sign it. If she doesn't have a lawyer at the time the contract is drafted then the courts will not enforce the document. In a contract there has to be consideration.

Yes. With the divorce rate the way it is, prenups are helpful. I wish I'd had one.

Both the man and the woman should have one.

And...the rules are stacked against everyone. Regardless of what you might think, unless you are very rich, the only ones who make money in a divorce are the lawyers.

Until the vows are spoken, anything that either partner is uncomfortable with is justification enough to call off the wedding. Certainly if the prenup (or even the prenub!) is important to him, that's reason enough.

I don't believe that anybody needs ANY justification to call off a marriage.

If, for any reason at all, you decide that you do not want to get married, then you should not get married.

Rationality of the justification is completely irrelevant. It does not matter WHY you do not want to get married, it only matters THAT you do not want to get married.

It's called a prenup as in prenuptial agreement and yes, it should concern him that his fiance refuses to sign one. I see it not so much as protection in a system heavily stacked against men as each party protecting the assets they created and had before they got married. I think all couples should sign them and revisit them regularly along with their wills and insurance policies.

Sarah Ann's answer is a PERFECT example of the typical shaming/intimidation women try to pull....not surprising considering most of her answers but clearly she (like most women) is all about the man taking all the risk and compromising. This selfish attitude explains why more then anything, a man who considers marrying the typical Western woman needs his head examined.

To answer your question: yes, any woman that would not respect her future husband's wishes on something so important as his financial well-being does not deserve a husband.

It is a prenup, as in prenuptial agreement. Is he much more affluent than her? Does she work? What is the age difference if any? How long have they been together? These can all make a difference.