As a North East Asian historian, I already have an opinion on this issue and perhaps will provide my analysis if others wish. However, I am very interested to see what others think about this issue.
I highly recommend others research this debate & please give a detailed explanation rather than a short reply. Plse no racist comments. This is a serious question that deserves a serious & mature response.
<GlobalSecurity.org> has a pretty good rundown on the history of the conflict.
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/world-asia-20... > BBC
<www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAnTl-WxKIk> I don't always agree w proper-gander-buster, but his views are rather entertaining (can be offensive at times-but not overtly) & somewhat informative.
<www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8B2LTQK8nM> Protest in China.
<www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzW6zujQiN8> Protest in Japan.
<www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB7VWBsy5Co> Taiwan's Claim
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The BASIC INFORMATION/411:
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The dispute is over the small island chain in the East China Sea known as Senkaku in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese.
It isn't just about the 7 sq km of islands. It's much more because of the waters strategic location which are close to the important shipping lanes, offer rich fishing grounds and are thought to contain oil deposits.
Americans may see this as a problem between two longtime Asian rivals with little need for U.S. involvement -- is this the right approach? Remember, America & other countries also use those trade routes, and one of China's central strategic aim is to continue to grow militarily & economically & eventually reduce the U.S. security role in Asia.
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____BUT_________ do not forget the history, the fact is that the United States has played an integral role in the dispute from the beginning:
• The U.S. entered the picture after Japan's defeat in World War II.
• The San Francisco Peace Treaty between Tokyo and the allies signed in 1951. This would seem to include Senkaku, and indeed the U.S. administered the islands for several years and the military used them for bombing practice.
• In 1971, the U.S. and Japan signed a treaty reverting Okinawa and the surrounding islands back to Japanese control.
• According to the Chinese version of events, Diaoyu had been administered by Taiwan -- which was ruled by imperial China -- prior to the war.
• China & Taiwan do not disputes Japan's occupation of islands. However, per post-WW II arrangements, they say Japan was required to surrender territories obtained from aggression and revert them to their pre-1895 legal status.
• Japan claims that the uninhabited islands were never China's to give. They were never administered by China and therefore not part of the package of land ceded.
• According to Japan, China never contested its claim to the islands until nearby energy deposits were discovered in the 1970s.
• As of now, the US does not take a position of the ultimate sovereignty of the Senkaku Islands.
• In consideration for the above statement, I want others to consider the further complicating matters of the 1960 Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan. According to Article 5/日米安保条約 of the security agreement <machidaheiwa.fc2web.com/.../law-security.html> the islands "fall within the scope of Article 5," meaning that if China took action to reassert its sovereignty over the islands, the U.S. would be obligated to intervene on Japan's behalf.
• It is arguably important to recognize that Japan (& South Korea) is Washington's most vital ally in Asia.
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Questions to consider (no need to answer all-merely inspiration for talking points):
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• Do you think a successful Asia strategy is impossible without a strong alliance with Japan?
•What are your feelings about this debate? Who has the right to the islands?
•How do you feel China & Japan are handling this issue?
•In Japan, some politicians are reacting by a nationalist. Do you feel this debate's provocation leads to nationalism? Is this productive or unproductive?
• What kind of impact will this have on our world's economy & trade if China is able to take control of the trade routes, which are currently under Japanese control? Will there be any impact or no effect at all?
• Lastly, what do you think about the US stance by being neutral? Should we/they take more responsibility considering their history with these islands?
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The sovereignty of Diaoyu Islands is with China since Marco Polo. U.S. made a mistake to assign that island to Japan.
The argument by Japan was based on a thanks giving letter by ex-Chinese minister but at that time Japan had invaded Diaoyu Island with a false excuse: Chinese torturing local people in Taiwan, but that had never happened.
From Chinese point of view, Diaoyu Island was a Japanese occupied land due to WWII; thus it should be returned to China.
Hillary Clinton tried to propose the Hong Kong style (Sovereignty belong to China but governance belongs to Japan) to resolve that problem. However, the transaction of Hong Kong from British Government back to China has been messed up by MI6. Hence, Chinese Government will not accept HK style as a resolution.
If U.S. considered Japan as a partner, it should let Japan to occupy some land near Seattle. The reason for Japan so pressed to gain Diaoyu Island, beside resource, the nulcear disaster caused Japanese victims no place to go. Develop Seattle is much economical than developing Diaoyu Island.
Revelation 6
5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. Then I beheld, and lo, a black horse, and he that sat on him, had balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny, and oil, and wine hurt thou not.
(Remark: that stands for the fighting for the equality in scare resource, including lands.)
Considering who controlled China for far too long, Mao Zedong and the number of people who died under his regime, China is still communist. I would like China to leave Taiwan and Tibet alone. JapanI was humbled after WWII and has been relatively well behaved since. Let Japan keep Okinawa, it's basically a US base anyway. I think the US should stay out of it, we're in enough conflicts in the Middle East as it is. We have enough domestic issues to worry about rather than foreign issues.
yes definetely yes, will be somethi ng wrong if USA cant get their nose in to shyt stir