Background: I moved into the apartment (in Chicago, IL) with the lease-holder (whom I was subleasing from) and another roommate. The other roommate decided to leave and so the lease-holder and I went through interviews to find a roommate that would be willing and agree to help cleaning and picking up, dishes, garbage, pitch in with community things (toilet paper, paper towels, cleaning supplies, etc). While we were interviewing, the leaseholder and I were very particular, upfront and honest and told the possible roommates that if they didn’t intend to help out or follow the rules, then we didn’t want to live with them. Well, this girl agreed to everything that we presented and we asked her if she had anything for us. We decided to have her move in. Apparently, my leaseholder never had her sign a lease. Then the leaseholder decided to move in with her boyfriend and so I took over as leaseholder.
I hadn’t been happy for a while because although I work full-time, commute 3-4 hours a day, go to the chiropractor 3-4x a week and go to the gym, I was always stuck cleaning up after this girl and the leaseholder was never home because she stayed at her boyfriends. Our apartment is an old place that requires a lot of sweeping and vacuuming because it gets very dusty, etc. My schedule is jam-packed as you can see and then to come home from a long day at 8-9pm at night and then I have to worry about picking up and cleaning up after someone is hardly fair. In my opinion she did not live up to her end of the bargain and all that she agreed to.
I am not a clean freak, but I feel that community areas should be kept and nice while your bedroom can be as messy as you would like. Not to mention this girl had boxes laying in our dining room in the way for 4 months! When I took over as leaseholder, I drew up a lease for her and the other new roommate (taking the lease-holders room). The newest roommate signed the lease right away and the other girl blew me off multiple times. I really wanted to ask her to leave and move-out, but I didn’t want to worry about yet another roommate interview and worrying if they will live up to their end of the bargain or not. But, I was getting extremely frustrated and even communicated that to her and confronted her in an adult manner (talking) my feelings. The fact that even after she agreed from the start and I was upfront and confronted her and discussed it with her, she still didn’t help out and I felt very disrespected.
Then, my sister decided she was going to move to the city and ended up finding a job, so since this girl didn’t sign a lease and my sister needed a place and I was frustrated and didn’t enjoy my living situation, I told this girl she had 35+ days to move out and had to be out by Dec. 1. The only weekend of this month that was convenient for this girl to move out happened to be the weekend of Nov. 13-15. She told me 3 days before that she was moving out and now expects a ½ month reimbursement for leaving early when my sister, the new roommate, isn’t moving in until Dec. 1.
Do I owe her that money? I gave her the full deposit back and she technically can have access to the apartment since I allowed her 30 days (without her signing a lease), but I don’t feel it is my fault nor my responsibility to reimburse her because her schedule didn’t allow for her to move out any other weekend. What do I tell her? Am I wrong?
Update:Robert,
Yes, I booted her, but there was absolutely no lease that she signed for the apartment. She was subleasing (but never signed the lease I drew up) from me, who is the leaseholder. What damages did I cause her other than putting her in a situation where she has 30 days to find a new place to rent? 30 days is plenty of time to find a new place to live. And breach of contract, what contract?
Why is it unfair for her to pay the same rent as everyone else? Split between 3 roommates with bedrooms the same size? I didn't ask her to be a maid, just to be courteous to the other roommates. Noone wants to live in someone else's filth.
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"I told this girl she had 35+ days to move out and had to be out by Dec. 1. The only weekend of this month that was convenient for this girl to move out happened to be the weekend of Nov. 13-15. She told me 3 days before that she was moving out and now expects a ½ month reimbursement for leaving early when my sister, the new roommate, isn’t moving in until Dec. 1."
You asked her to leave -- she did. What's the problem. She's not living there anymore.
Had she given you the 30 day notice, she'd be responsible for that time. But she didn't, you told her she has 35 days to move out...she did so in 3.
That's my take. I don't think she's obligated -- and not being on the lease just complicates the issue for you.
Edit:
A twist:
If she still has the keys and still has access to the apartment, she's likely responsible for rent.
If she's completely moved out and has returned the keys then she's not obligated to pay -- you booted her.
You owe her the money, you terminated her lease, not her, and since you voided the contract, you owe her compensation for any damages she sustained from the breach of contract (now she has to pay twice for that half month of rent)
"But, I was getting extremely frustrated and even communicated that to her and confronted her in an adult manner (talking) my feelings" by the way you were in a business relationship with her, your feelings has nothing to do with anything! maybe she was feeling it was unfair that she had to pay the same rent as everyone else and was expected to be the house maid too...
in my opinion i think of you're able to desire to save pronounced money if for no longer something than purely with the aid of fact she lied to you and grew to become into very disrespectful. and so a techniques as actual 'owing' her the money it incredibly is up on your extensive conscious no longer as much as the regulation or something regardless of each little thing she by no skill even signed a lease so there is no documentation of her ever being there in any respect. and actual she is shifting out whilst its handy for her and waiting which you will compensate and bend to her time table which will by no skill be precise. So its thoroughly her fault for dropping that money and shifting out so early and additionally you owe her no longer something. with the objective to wrap it up No do no longer supply that lady any money
You don't tell her anything other than she is S.O.L. Any court will agree with you.