What's an alternative for the racing harnesses if you dont want to wrap them around a bar?
I want to install racing seats with a 4 point chest harness for my 2002 wrx. I am wondering what's an alternative for the racing harnesses if I dont want to wrap them around a bar? Thanks:)
The obvious question that comes in response to this is, why do you want a harness? Since you are looking at a 4-point harness, it's not for actual racing (I've never seen any rule set that doesn't require at least a 5-point); so the question is what is the need?
This is an important question to answer for youself, because chances are you're not going to improve the overall safety of the car. As it comes from the factory, the car is well equipped with each part of a safety system working together. Changing a part of this can improve safety performance in one area, but it will generally compromise it in another. In the case of a 4 point harness, you will hold yourself in more securely, but you will trade-off an increased risk of injury in a rollover and a greater likelyhood of soft organ injuries in an inpact (the later is fixed by using a 5 or 6 point harness while the former is fixed by adding roll over protection... which in turn brings on some other safety related challenges that ultimately will lead to a full race car safety system).
And that's the best case scenario... the reality is usually worse since many people that install harnesses (mainly for looks) do so incorrectly. Which is roughly what you're looking at doing from the sound of it... an inocrrectly sized seat and/or a poorly positioned guide bar (or harness truss if you go that way) is key to avoiding spinal compression injuries!
So that's your food for thought... if you simply want to avoid attaching a hanress to a bar, you will still need the guide bar to properly setup the angle the harness will pass through the seats, but you would then anchor the shoulder points either to the floor or somewhere in the back seat area (using the anchor points that were oringally used for the rear seats are an ideal point since they are already re-enforced to handle any loading they might see in an impact).
If you don't want to use a bar at all, the alternative (and probably the best alternative overall for a street car), is the stock three point that came with the car since these will work with most sports seats and also many race shells.
Uhhhh no person, despite the fact that my canine appears to be my friend no matter what I do or say Ammo and Jamie: . . . . . LOL, sure, so true, every girl has their Daddy wrapped around their little finger, quite often a good thing most girls dont know it. Us Dads are soooo helpless where their daughters are worried.
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what bar did you have in mind/bar rail/handle bar?wrap them around your personnel bar
The obvious question that comes in response to this is, why do you want a harness? Since you are looking at a 4-point harness, it's not for actual racing (I've never seen any rule set that doesn't require at least a 5-point); so the question is what is the need?
This is an important question to answer for youself, because chances are you're not going to improve the overall safety of the car. As it comes from the factory, the car is well equipped with each part of a safety system working together. Changing a part of this can improve safety performance in one area, but it will generally compromise it in another. In the case of a 4 point harness, you will hold yourself in more securely, but you will trade-off an increased risk of injury in a rollover and a greater likelyhood of soft organ injuries in an inpact (the later is fixed by using a 5 or 6 point harness while the former is fixed by adding roll over protection... which in turn brings on some other safety related challenges that ultimately will lead to a full race car safety system).
And that's the best case scenario... the reality is usually worse since many people that install harnesses (mainly for looks) do so incorrectly. Which is roughly what you're looking at doing from the sound of it... an inocrrectly sized seat and/or a poorly positioned guide bar (or harness truss if you go that way) is key to avoiding spinal compression injuries!
So that's your food for thought... if you simply want to avoid attaching a hanress to a bar, you will still need the guide bar to properly setup the angle the harness will pass through the seats, but you would then anchor the shoulder points either to the floor or somewhere in the back seat area (using the anchor points that were oringally used for the rear seats are an ideal point since they are already re-enforced to handle any loading they might see in an impact).
If you don't want to use a bar at all, the alternative (and probably the best alternative overall for a street car), is the stock three point that came with the car since these will work with most sports seats and also many race shells.
Uhhhh no person, despite the fact that my canine appears to be my friend no matter what I do or say Ammo and Jamie: . . . . . LOL, sure, so true, every girl has their Daddy wrapped around their little finger, quite often a good thing most girls dont know it. Us Dads are soooo helpless where their daughters are worried.