Well, it seems as if the anti-fems have come across an article / concept / metaphor on the internet and decided it is insane misandry.
Here are some links if you are interested:
http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-st...
http://www.atheistrev.com/2012/10/schrodingers-rap...
http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/i-am-schrodin...
Well, I read the article (first link) and liked it. I did not think it was misandric, nor anti male. In fact, if you are a guy who would like to approach women, then it could be very informative.
The point of the article was not to tell women to think all men are rapists, but to explain to men how women actually feel when they are approached by strange men in a public place.
I know the anti fems think women should be taught that all men are lovable, kind-hearted teddy bears and, the majority of them are. But our experiences can also teach us that the minority are not.*
When we are approached by a strange man in a potentially threatening situation, we have no idea which one you are.
The article only seeks to clue men up. That is all.
I really do not see what the big deal is? Remember, the point of the article was to inform men about what women are already doing and NOT to tell women what they should be doing.
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* this education can begin very early and i am going to share some of my own experiences during my childhood and teenage years. I shall omit the big ones and only include the ones I reasonably believe many women experience growing up:
Having my crotch fondled by a stange man when I was 8 years old
Having my *** and breasts grabbed by boys at school, from junior school to high school
Having a guy drive past our school gates several times at home time, wearing a full-face helmet, fondling his erect, exposed penis
Being followed home by a group of laughing jeering youths (strangers) as I walked home from the public swimming pool. that was when I first heard the phrase 'Juicy C*nt'. I was twelve.
Being shouted at, lewed gestures, lewed remarks, usually by groups of men or boys when I was just walking along minding my own business - happened more often than I can reasonably count on one hand
Being groped by strange men in night clubs
Having dates go horribly wrong and quite scary on more than one occassion, when it became clear to the guy that i did not intend to sleep with him
I could go on, but the point is, this kind of stuff happens to girls. i know you dont want to believe it does, but it does. I do not hate men at all, I am in a lovely relationship etc. however, it has shaped my perception of what some men are capable and my awareness of the threat they may pose to me if I am stupid enough to put myself in a vulnerable position.
If you are a stranger to me, I do not know whether you are a teddy bear or one of the bad ones, and I would be stupid to put myself in the situation of having to find out the hard way.
This is not an insult to your gender or to you in particular. It is simply a fact of life.
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And before you claim that I must be miserable to live my life in so much fear, I can assure you, i do not. I simply take sensible precautions and evaluate every situation individually. this is something most women do, because it makes sense to so so.
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@Just me: 'Some of us are indeed humans.'
Of course you are. In no way do I believe men are evil and out to get women. I am just saying that I am aware that some men are capable of dodgy behaviour because of my past experience, so I take precautions because, when approached, I don't know which one you are. that is all. the fact is, because men are stronger than women, if things started to go south I would battle to protect myself. So I am a bit careful. That is all. To be fair, you probably do the same thing walking into a pub filled with dodgy looking ganster dudes.
I really think this poor woman's article has been blown way out of proportion by the anti-fems.
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"it has shaped my perception of what some men are capable and my awareness of the threat they may pose to me if I am stupid enough to put myself in a vulnerable position."
My thoughts exactly
I don't understand how they don't get what it actually means. The point i get is that NO ONE KNOWS who the lunatics are. We are not psychic. That's all it's saying. Like i said earlier, i don't get what the fuss is about
I would never tell you all men are warm and fuzzy. Some men are worst than the monsters children dream about under their beds. I will tell you this, we are not all that way, nor are most of us like that. Ive never fondled anyone nor would I ever. I'm more likely to kill a rapist than become one. I feel for what you have been through I just beg you not to paint us all with the same brush as the evil men who wronged you.
Some of us are indeed humans.
I suppose the "big deal" is that some men, particularly the antifeminist kind, don't like hearing common sense.
Every man I interact with knows how to read a woman's signals, and that if she is staring intently out the bus window when he tries to talk to her, that he should back off. Only the completely socially inept or, more often, those who want to exert control would continue to harass someone in such a situation.
Of course, many of these same antifeminists will be quick to blame a woman for being too trusting, and say that being raped was partially her fault too.
Someone mentioned prison. Yes. Anyone with experience with people who want to harass, con, or generally take advantage of you would find no offense in the article. It's common sense, that some men (manipulative men) want to pretend isn't common sense.
That account of being a girl and young woman is extremely familiar to me. I can only assume that men do not see other men behaving like this (not that they do not actually see it, but do not interpret it in the same way as they have no connection to it and no empathy for the girl or woman suffering it), or do not see their own behaviour as remotely like this and therefore identify it as a batch of anti male lies.
All men I have discussed this with will condemn that sort of behaviour, but rarely have any admitted that they have ever done any of those things. Which statistically they must have.
I totally understand the articles. This is why I never leave my kids alone with strange women- lunch mom, daycare worker, female police officer, etc.
You can't even trust teachers anymore. Seems like every week there's a female teacher raping a male student! Wtf!
Women are far more likely to abuse and kill children. Schrodingers child killers.
It is a good idea to take precautions.
as i answered to the earlier post...
if they were in prison, every guy would better understand and would be less offended by the thought process...
that said...
going through life thinking like a victim will encourage predations by those uncivilized that exist to prey upon those weaker than themselves. predators can detect fear and will often be drawn after those that are (rightfully or wrongfully) afraid.
It's possible, but you can apply this theory to everything. Rapist, murderer, wizard etc...
Also Schrödingers rapist sounds like the work of a pseudo intellectual.
How is it not misandric to basically tell men that in order to not be "labeled a problem" (her words), he has to walk through life thinking of himself as a potential threat to every single woman he meets?