The only thing the Bible says is, ".......holding faith and a good conscience, which some have thrust aside and have experienced shipwreck concerning their faith. Hy·me·nae′us and Alexander belong to these. . ." 1 Timothy 1:19,20
2 Timothy 4:15 adds, "for he resisted our words to an excessive degree".
The fact that Paul and some of his companions were of Hebrew extraction made the Jews anxious to show plainly that they were not sympathizers with him and his work. They therefore brought forward one of their own number to set the matter before the people. The speaker chosen was Alexander, one of the craftsmen, a coppersmith, to whom Paul afterward referred as having done him much evil. 2 Timothy 4:14. Alexander was a man of considerable ability, and he bent all his energies to direct the wrath of the people exclusively against Paul and his companions. But the crowd, seeing that Alexander was a Jew, thrust him aside, and "all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians."
At last, from sheer exhaustion, they ceased, and there was a momentary silence. Then the recorder of the city arrested the attention of the crowd, and by virtue of his office obtained a hearing. He met the people on their own ground and showed that there was no cause for the present tumult. He appealed to their reason. "Ye men of Ephesus," he said, "what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshiper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter? Seeing then that these things cannot be spoken against, ye ought to be quiet, and to do nothing rashly. For ye have brought hither these men, which are neither robbers of churches, nor yet blasphemers of your goddess. Wherefore if Demetrius, and the craftsmen which are with him, have a matter against any man, the law is open, and there are deputies: let them implead one another. But if ye inquire anything concerning other matters, it shall be determined in a lawful assembly. For we are in danger to be called in question for this day's uproar, there being no cause whereby we may give an account of this concourse. And when he had thus spoken, he dismissed the assembly."
In his speech Demetrius had said, "This our craft is in danger." These words reveal the real cause of the tumult at Ephesus, and also the cause of much of the persecution which followed the apostles in their work. Demetrius and his fellow craftsmen saw that by the teaching and spread of the gospel the business of image making was endangered. The income of pagan priests and artisans was at stake, and for this reason they aroused against Paul the most bitter opposition.
*** Already mentioned above are Hymenaeus and Alexander. It cannot be proved that the Alexander mentioned in Paul’s first letter to Timothy is the coppersmith mentioned at 2 Timothy 4:14, 15, where the apostle states: “Alexander the coppersmith did me many injuries—Jehovah will repay him according to his deeds—and you too be on guard against him, for he resisted our words to an excessive degree.” The Alexander associated with Hymenaeus was guilty of a serious wrong, blasphemy, and both of these were disfellowshiped, handed over to Satan that their contaminating influence might be removed from the early Christian congregation.
The True Servants of God (especially Evangelists and Pastors) personally have many experiences like Paul. There are many(Alexanders) with different profesions(like coppersmith). God new Paul s and His all servants experiences. .....Think Spiritually, Positively please
According to the Bible writers before his conversion Saint Paul was instrumental in the death of countless followers of Jesus Christ. He must have left behind a lot of widows and orphans. He never repented! He only wised up. After his “conversion” or rather change of mind… Saint Paul doesn’t have people killed anymore, but he still has a special hatred for certain people. He doesn't like gays and lesbians, he hates women, and he doesn't like Cretans. He hates widows, especially the ones that he left behind in his past “DUNG” (plain sh*t) life as he call it. Now Saint Paul is not looking back, but “stretching out to reach the supreme calling in Christ Jesus! (Phil 3:13)” So now he is denying any Church help to most widows and no apologies, either. He hates escaped slaves and he orders them to return to their masters! Can you imagine sexually abusive masters, especially on young boy and girl slaves getting their escaped slaves back? The lesson that the masters are ready to teach them for escaping will blow your mind! In fact, Saint Paul dedicated THE WHOLE BOOK OF PHILEMON to teach escaped Christian slaves to return to their masters. Saint Peter goes along the same lines, too…!
1 Peter 2:18 (NIV) (Saint Peter the first Pope commands!) Slaves* (*including young boy and girl slaves!), submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, NOT ONLY to those who are good and considerate, BUT ALSO TO THOSE WHO ARE HARSH.* (*yeah… those deep into BDSM pleasures, even abusive sexual perverts… explicitly speaking Saint Peter is not offering any exception! Or is there room here for a “spiritually speaking” bit?)
Titus 1:12-13 (NIV) (Saint Paul writes) Even ONE OF THEIR OWN PROPHETS HAS SAID, “CRETANS ARE ALWAYS LIARS, EVIL BRUTES, LAZY GLUTTONS.” THIS TESTIMONY IS TRUE!* (*Saint Paul is using strictly hearsay evidence!) Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith* (*no fair hearing needed to determine the truthfulness of this Holy slander against ALL CRETANS! Over 600,000 people now!).
Saint Paul wrote the bulk of the New Testament. He laid down the basis for the new Christian religion. Apparently he doesn’t like the people on the Island of Crete. He is accusing them of being ALWAYS LIARS, EVIL BRUTES, LAZY GLUTTONS just for the heck of it, on hearsay evidence alone! Christians ought to know that the “born again transforming power” of God the Holy Ghost has no effect on the Cretan Christians OR ANY CHRISTIAN for that matter! The Cretan Christians need to be rebuked sharply that they are no good people! If any Cretan fills out a job application anywhere Saint Paul is tipping the hiring manager USING A NOTE IN THE HOLY BIBLE that the Cretans are “ALWAYS LIARS, EVIL BRUTES, LAZY GLUTTONS”! So good luck all ye Cretan Christians! How long would it take to remove a damaging disclosure like that from the “eternal” Word of God, the Bible? Obviously, the Bible is in desperate need of total revision and update because the religion in it is too primitive and obviously uncivilized!
At the end of the Bible Saint Peter, an illiterate fisherman, one of the alleged Bible writers insist that they were all “moved” by God the Holy Ghost to write the Bible and that they really ignored that they were the mouthpieces of an “Intelligent Designer God!” It takes a lot of gullibility, aka “faith” to believe all the disparities in the Bible! (1 Peter 1:21)
A higher IQ Christian can discreetly figure out the immorality of the Bible writers and manage his/her “faith” accordingly, especially the preachers! I know it for a fact! Only when they are caught they act silly with full Christian support! (Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Habbard, Jim Bakker, and so on)…
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The only thing the Bible says is, ".......holding faith and a good conscience, which some have thrust aside and have experienced shipwreck concerning their faith. Hy·me·nae′us and Alexander belong to these. . ." 1 Timothy 1:19,20
2 Timothy 4:15 adds, "for he resisted our words to an excessive degree".
That's as specific as we know.
Alexander The Coppersmith
The fact that Paul and some of his companions were of Hebrew extraction made the Jews anxious to show plainly that they were not sympathizers with him and his work. They therefore brought forward one of their own number to set the matter before the people. The speaker chosen was Alexander, one of the craftsmen, a coppersmith, to whom Paul afterward referred as having done him much evil. 2 Timothy 4:14. Alexander was a man of considerable ability, and he bent all his energies to direct the wrath of the people exclusively against Paul and his companions. But the crowd, seeing that Alexander was a Jew, thrust him aside, and "all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians."
At last, from sheer exhaustion, they ceased, and there was a momentary silence. Then the recorder of the city arrested the attention of the crowd, and by virtue of his office obtained a hearing. He met the people on their own ground and showed that there was no cause for the present tumult. He appealed to their reason. "Ye men of Ephesus," he said, "what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshiper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter? Seeing then that these things cannot be spoken against, ye ought to be quiet, and to do nothing rashly. For ye have brought hither these men, which are neither robbers of churches, nor yet blasphemers of your goddess. Wherefore if Demetrius, and the craftsmen which are with him, have a matter against any man, the law is open, and there are deputies: let them implead one another. But if ye inquire anything concerning other matters, it shall be determined in a lawful assembly. For we are in danger to be called in question for this day's uproar, there being no cause whereby we may give an account of this concourse. And when he had thus spoken, he dismissed the assembly."
In his speech Demetrius had said, "This our craft is in danger." These words reveal the real cause of the tumult at Ephesus, and also the cause of much of the persecution which followed the apostles in their work. Demetrius and his fellow craftsmen saw that by the teaching and spread of the gospel the business of image making was endangered. The income of pagan priests and artisans was at stake, and for this reason they aroused against Paul the most bitter opposition.
*** Already mentioned above are Hymenaeus and Alexander. It cannot be proved that the Alexander mentioned in Paul’s first letter to Timothy is the coppersmith mentioned at 2 Timothy 4:14, 15, where the apostle states: “Alexander the coppersmith did me many injuries—Jehovah will repay him according to his deeds—and you too be on guard against him, for he resisted our words to an excessive degree.” The Alexander associated with Hymenaeus was guilty of a serious wrong, blasphemy, and both of these were disfellowshiped, handed over to Satan that their contaminating influence might be removed from the early Christian congregation.
He denounced Paul before the Roman judges. He claimed that Paul was starting his own religion and creating ill will towards the government.
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Paul is making references to specific incidents that occurred during one of his previous visits in this section.
Remember, it was written as a personal letter.
The True Servants of God (especially Evangelists and Pastors) personally have many experiences like Paul. There are many(Alexanders) with different profesions(like coppersmith). God new Paul s and His all servants experiences. .....Think Spiritually, Positively please
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Alexander wore copper earrings which left some nasty green streaks on the insides of Paul's thighs.
He was exposing Saint Paul's conduct...
According to the Bible writers before his conversion Saint Paul was instrumental in the death of countless followers of Jesus Christ. He must have left behind a lot of widows and orphans. He never repented! He only wised up. After his “conversion” or rather change of mind… Saint Paul doesn’t have people killed anymore, but he still has a special hatred for certain people. He doesn't like gays and lesbians, he hates women, and he doesn't like Cretans. He hates widows, especially the ones that he left behind in his past “DUNG” (plain sh*t) life as he call it. Now Saint Paul is not looking back, but “stretching out to reach the supreme calling in Christ Jesus! (Phil 3:13)” So now he is denying any Church help to most widows and no apologies, either. He hates escaped slaves and he orders them to return to their masters! Can you imagine sexually abusive masters, especially on young boy and girl slaves getting their escaped slaves back? The lesson that the masters are ready to teach them for escaping will blow your mind! In fact, Saint Paul dedicated THE WHOLE BOOK OF PHILEMON to teach escaped Christian slaves to return to their masters. Saint Peter goes along the same lines, too…!
1 Peter 2:18 (NIV) (Saint Peter the first Pope commands!) Slaves* (*including young boy and girl slaves!), submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, NOT ONLY to those who are good and considerate, BUT ALSO TO THOSE WHO ARE HARSH.* (*yeah… those deep into BDSM pleasures, even abusive sexual perverts… explicitly speaking Saint Peter is not offering any exception! Or is there room here for a “spiritually speaking” bit?)
Titus 1:12-13 (NIV) (Saint Paul writes) Even ONE OF THEIR OWN PROPHETS HAS SAID, “CRETANS ARE ALWAYS LIARS, EVIL BRUTES, LAZY GLUTTONS.” THIS TESTIMONY IS TRUE!* (*Saint Paul is using strictly hearsay evidence!) Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith* (*no fair hearing needed to determine the truthfulness of this Holy slander against ALL CRETANS! Over 600,000 people now!).
Saint Paul wrote the bulk of the New Testament. He laid down the basis for the new Christian religion. Apparently he doesn’t like the people on the Island of Crete. He is accusing them of being ALWAYS LIARS, EVIL BRUTES, LAZY GLUTTONS just for the heck of it, on hearsay evidence alone! Christians ought to know that the “born again transforming power” of God the Holy Ghost has no effect on the Cretan Christians OR ANY CHRISTIAN for that matter! The Cretan Christians need to be rebuked sharply that they are no good people! If any Cretan fills out a job application anywhere Saint Paul is tipping the hiring manager USING A NOTE IN THE HOLY BIBLE that the Cretans are “ALWAYS LIARS, EVIL BRUTES, LAZY GLUTTONS”! So good luck all ye Cretan Christians! How long would it take to remove a damaging disclosure like that from the “eternal” Word of God, the Bible? Obviously, the Bible is in desperate need of total revision and update because the religion in it is too primitive and obviously uncivilized!
At the end of the Bible Saint Peter, an illiterate fisherman, one of the alleged Bible writers insist that they were all “moved” by God the Holy Ghost to write the Bible and that they really ignored that they were the mouthpieces of an “Intelligent Designer God!” It takes a lot of gullibility, aka “faith” to believe all the disparities in the Bible! (1 Peter 1:21)
A higher IQ Christian can discreetly figure out the immorality of the Bible writers and manage his/her “faith” accordingly, especially the preachers! I know it for a fact! Only when they are caught they act silly with full Christian support! (Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Habbard, Jim Bakker, and so on)…
Sodomy
and the full quote was “Alexander the coppersmith did me many injuries- but I LOOOOOOOOVED it!"